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août 11, 2003

Sasha Saidin Skinner's Wedding Pictures

The Wedding Ring The Dowry in an album for Memories :) Skinner says Thanks to the Imam The Newly Weds Happy Together with Sasha's Parents Makan Session Shasha & Housemate, Aya Hand in hand :) Off we go!

Posted by Sharizal at août 11, 2003 06:33 PM

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Comments

Thanks for the pix - just glad to know it wasn't a Frank Skinner that she married :)

Posted by: Idlan at août 14, 2003 05:28 PM

did i just see jimmy choo in one of the picture?

Posted by: haxa at août 14, 2003 05:44 PM

Yes, by all accounts that does indeed look like Jimmy Choo... is that air bandung? Yum.

Posted by: feirith at août 17, 2003 03:28 PM

Nice pictures! And yeah, the man with the blue shirt IS Jimmy Choo, right?

Posted by: Lolyta at août 18, 2003 09:24 PM

what about frak skinner??... did she married twice or!!!

Posted by: LaBOsh at août 19, 2003 05:41 PM

Ini di Malaysia. Tapi gambar yg dia wedding kat England tu dia buat kat gereja. Betul ke

Posted by: X at août 19, 2003 06:56 PM

Sorry silap tempat. On April 11 2003 Eureka Springs, Arkansas. USA . Betul ke?

Posted by: x at août 19, 2003 07:04 PM

To shasha..pls give an explaination on the other ceremony (the christian likes ceremony)pictures. I guess everybody need the explaination especially u r fans. Coz that pictures have been spread out over to Malaysian instead the one that Shahrizal posted on this site. They made a rumours that u've .... to u r husband's religious. I think u better clean up the mess for your own sake.

Posted by: sarah at août 19, 2003 08:30 PM

where can i get those pics of sasha?i mean, with the american wedding?i've seen them but kinda lost acces to them.thanx

Posted by: lili at août 20, 2003 06:53 AM

You want see it. You won't believe it la. So their public ceremony will be on 28 December 2003, at Dewan Perdana Felda. According to the foreign newspaper, Sasha is from Norwich , England
- Honeymoon at private island in South East Asia( Pangkor Laut Resorts in Malaysia) & after that both want to further studies at University of East Anglia at Norwich.

Posted by: x at août 20, 2003 09:04 AM

Emm... cam tu la melayuuuuu...

Posted by: i_bin at août 20, 2003 09:07 AM

APR 11 2003
Wedding in Thorncrown Chapel, Highway 62,Eureka Springs, Arkansas,USA

http://www.thorncrown.com/general_information.htm

Posted by: x at août 20, 2003 10:08 AM


Jason Skinner is presently a Staff Sergent in the US Air Force stationed at Jacksonville Air Force Base, Arkansas. Also been attending class towards a degree in aeronautical University of Maryland.

Posted by: x at août 20, 2003 10:20 AM

Macam tak percaya... tapi have 2....hello sasha whats going on with you...!!!???...

Posted by: Ayda at août 20, 2003 11:31 AM

Gambar kat Malaysia jer ke? Wedding picture di USA takde ker? Gambar yg tersebar tu betul ker gambar u? I jugak nak explaination...

Posted by: mawar at août 20, 2003 01:51 PM

Ya saya baru je dapat gambar shasha kahwin kat gereja....Hai tak malu ker...Ingat tuhan ler shasha oiii

Posted by: cartuzz77 at août 20, 2003 02:45 PM

Apa beza dengan mereka yang kahwin ikut adat resam Melayu dan nikah kat masjid, tapi bila tiba waktu solat, tak gak sembahyang...sama jer!!!!

Posted by: riddle at août 20, 2003 02:50 PM

solat tak solat, itu antara diri sendiri dan Allah. tapi kalau terang-terangan berkahwin di chapel tu, ape kata sasha?

Posted by: kuin at août 20, 2003 03:35 PM

Mula mula tu tak perasan jugak sape yang dalam gambar tu, tapi bila tengok sekali lagi, memang lah muka Sasya kahwin kat Gereja, Ya Allah, terkejut badak saya dibuat nya. Tolong lah bagi penjelasan kat semua.. Memang sekarang ni banyak orang melayu yang kahwin dengan Mat Saleh, sungguh memalukan dan berdosa kalau kita plak yang ikut dia punya religion, tak takut dosa ke!!! Ya Allah, apa nak jadi ngan dunia ni xx

Posted by: xyz at août 20, 2003 04:34 PM

i'm confused... tengok gambar kawin kat US tuh. I poon kawin kat US jugak, tapi I kawin kat masjid and registered kat county mana I used to stay, but then tak der laa ceremony sebegini. kita buat akad nikah kat masjid depan kadi and saksi, cukup dengan mas kawin cincin dan baca nikah. setahu I kat US semua states ada muslim society or masjid. tak kan kat arkansas tak der kot? just wondering... takat tengok gambar tak der laa nak kata apa... just need some clarification

Posted by: sue at août 20, 2003 08:07 PM

What about the wedding done in the 'church'? The wedding was conducted in the christian way with a priest and wine and all sorts. Don't you want to post that picture? Is Sasha still a muslim now?

Posted by: Zull at août 20, 2003 08:14 PM

If Sasha is already an apostate, then beheading shall it be. No need to ask for explanation, repentance or death...

Posted by: Zull again at août 20, 2003 08:19 PM

You people should leave them alone. It was their perfect weddings and not yours. If that makes them happy then let it be. Maybe her husband wanted to get married in a church as part of who he was. Respect and love are among many things that bond them together. Don't ruin their marriage just because of what you think is right! Why demand an explanation from them? for what? for your own satisfaction? so, that you can sleep well at night? How selfish are you! So, bug off... Their families are fine with it... So, leave then alone and bless them! I'm happy for them. I'm sure she's still a Muslim and also Saidin with his new faith.

Posted by: andrison at août 21, 2003 02:59 AM

Helloooooooo Andrison,
In Muslim religion, those other religion who want to marry Muslim people, they have to follow the Muslim.
For this case, the wedding should be done first at Sasha family. Not Skinner.
Our religion not half cut there & another cut there. If you want to be a Muslim , be it 100%
Because we concern her , she is a role model for the Malaysian artist (Malay).She got a lot of fans too in Malaysia.
OK!!!!!.

Posted by: x at août 21, 2003 09:12 AM

bukan nyer kepohchi... but then melayu tuh melayu jugak... apa nak riak sgt kawin mat salleh nih... manusia jugakkan... hensem mcm man poon berak busuk jugak taik dia... cantik mcm mana poon berak busuk jugak... tak kesah laa nak kawin masjid ka church kaaa itu masalah masing masing... tapi kalo dah glamour mcm sasha pandai sendirik laa jaga nama... selalu masuk URTV & media.. nice things about u... tiba tiba plak bila kawin "airrrggghhh"... org tetap akan mengata walau apa poon... melayu tuh memang melayu daaa kaann... satu melayu kampong (suka cakap pasal org), satu melayu pe'rak & riak... anyways apa2 poon sasha got two religions ker dua tuhan ker satu tuhan ker... itu masalah masing masing... org tak jeles kawin grand (macam kawan kita Yusry & Erra tuh).. tapi kalo nak glamour tuh pepandai laa jaga nama.. mulut org susaaahhh nak coverrr beb... kalo nak hidup! heheheh

Posted by: amelia at août 21, 2003 09:16 AM

Zull, I have posted this on my site as Sasha has asked me whether I could and she forwarded me these pictures.

As for the 'other' pictures, she did not. In fact, I believe I should not as I do not have her permission to do so.

Having said that, having the discussion about that here is healthy where at least she can read about what her fans and also other Malaysians think about the other pictures.

It does come to mind how and why those pictures got circulated in the first place.

Keep on discussing as I think this is an important topic.

However I would also like to put your kind attention to a small poll I am conducting about what kind of Malaysia you would like to have in the future.

You can read about it here and here.

Posted by: Sharizal Shaarani at août 21, 2003 09:42 AM

U guys are so funny... wat's so good about shasha?... ha ha ha.. biarla ape yang dia nak buat.. hidup dia cara dia biar la dia yang rancang... but I really hope that shasha will not have the extend to convert to another religion, nauzubillah.

Posted by: Intan at août 21, 2003 09:45 AM

Andrison, if you're a non-muslim, I tolerate your ignorance. Alas, we don't need Sasha's explasnation, her action is enough to show her apostasy. If she's ignorant to that fact, then please repent. If not, she's no longer a muslim.
I rest my case.

Posted by: Zull at août 21, 2003 09:48 AM

Hmm... I can't judge a person but maybe Sasha was just having a reception with the groom's family. i mean, her family had one akad nikah ceremony n the groom's family probably want to throw one in their own style.

& she probably went thru' the ceremony just for show - u know the whole works - the wedding march, the wedding vows and finally announced as husband & wife.

what's important is a person's nawaitu - niat.

Sasha - u shld know yourself better. n being a public figure, this 'ruckus' is expected. don't let this ruin you honeymooners... :-)

Posted by: Hanah at août 21, 2003 10:08 AM

EMAIL FROM SASHA

> >Sheesh ... words spread very fast and from the feedback I get now I
know
> >why I didin't release the pictures in the first place ... The ceremony
> >was was a CIVIL MARRIAGE CEREMONY and we decided to do it in the states
> >with Jason's family prior to the nikah in London (a civil marriage cert
> >is required for it to be done overseas).
> >But it was a beautiful place, we wrote our own vows to each other and
it
> >was a nice ceremony .......
> >But people can say what they wanna say .... but I guess everybody
wants
> >to play God when obviously they are not .... but I guess I have the
> >person who hacked into my PC to thank for all this .... The main thing
> >is that my family and close friends know what the deal is ... so
that's
> >fine with me ...
> >Anyway, you take care .... and I guess the show must go on ....
> >Love,
> >Sasha

Posted by: moira at août 21, 2003 11:17 AM

well macam aku cakap mula mula tadi... kalo org lain buat perkara mcm nih org tak tahukan??.. sbb sasha buat KECOH laaarr.. celebrity kata kan... kalo dah nak sgt glamour sikit sikit hantar gambar kat URTV & Media, crita pasal balak hensem etc etc... nak jadik role model.. jangan laa sesat kan peminat dengan gegambar mcm nih.. org tak tuduh org tak mengata... tapi org bole judge... mana betul mana tidak.. masing masing empoonyer akal & otak... u can't stop people for talking things about you... bukan nak kata kita nih baik sgt... bla bla blaa... but then... entah laaa.. masing masing pk sendirik yek... mana betul mana yg tidak...

hadis nabi: 'Akan ada manusia yg paginya Islam .... petangnya kafir ... '


Posted by: amelia at août 21, 2003 11:26 AM

Sasha, you call that a nice ceremony. Do you understand the term "civil marriage"in the first place. I don't think we Muslims can accept civil marriage especially in Singapore and Malaysia. As in your own words 'it was a nice ceremony' does it mean that U shld have it in a CHURCH?????. Nauzubilah min zalik. Do U have no shame at all? And U can also tell us (if you think that we're really dumb) that what you're surping from is just water and not wine, right?????

Posted by: Wati at août 21, 2003 11:31 AM


In my opinion, Shasha is always want to get attention from people in Malaysia...for example when she decided to further her studies in UK, she told all magazines and newspapers in Malaysia about it, why she wants to do this? Then when Yusri and Erra decided to get marry, she also wanted to get marry...what's wrong with this girl....is she really want to get attention from US (Malaysian people)? Now she wanted our attention by marrying 'mat salleh' in small chapel in Arkansas (I’m not sure how truth it was because according to my friend (Christian’s girl) she said that chapel don't look like church, it look more like a rest house). Of course all of us, especially Muslims will get angry because it involves our religion, that is Muslim. For Muslim people out there, please don't mad at her, it just waste your time because she is Shasha, who always act like she wants a cheap publicity.
I know Andrison that wedding is hers not mine but you have to think in term of religion perspective, even though u convert to Muslim, u can't have wedding like Christian's wedding. Shasha should tell him before they decided to get marry. I used to go out with mat salleh when I was studied in the US (Andrison i think you knew him since I had mentioned about him to our friends in Philidelphia), the reason I don't want to have serious relationship with mat salleh (american guy) is because of religion. For me religion is very important, wherever I go, with whom I'm going to end up and how educated I am, I’m still a Muslim and I can't change it because I was taught to be Muslim and Malaysian people.

Andrison, please don't feel offended, it's just my opinion, so where are you now, still in Philidelphia, so when are you going back to Kuching? call me if you back in Kuching, okay! really looking forward to meet you and I miss all our friends in college like KA, Fazli, Aza, Charlie, Arai, Ajai....and others....I forgot their names.....heheheheheeee

Posted by: sarinah zainudin at août 21, 2003 11:43 AM

It's a chapel... church ke chapel ke, what's the different... still tempat orang KRISTIAN mengamalkan ibadat mereka...
http://www.thorncrown.com/general_information.htm

Posted by: moira at août 21, 2003 11:59 AM

Moira,

Kalau gereja tu di convertkan kepada masjid untuk sembahyang jumaat macam mana pulak?

When I was in university that is what we did to the university chapel.

Posted by: Sharizal Shaarani at août 21, 2003 12:02 PM

There you've said it.. converted to masjid and used for prayer (very clear purpose).. ini dah terang2 ikut Christian ceremony.. itupun tidak SALAH ke? where's your conscience man....

Posted by: moira at août 21, 2003 12:08 PM

after reading all the comments as well as sasha's reply the point blank issue would be the principle of religion & understanding of Islam itself. being modern does not allow us to do things that will offend other Muslims, especially as a public figure. the issue is not about butting in but why make a ceremony with all the set-up as seen in a Christian wedding? that is the issue. wine, 'church', kissing...there is not a need to justify simply respect others. all the best to you sasha! :-p

Posted by: shima at août 21, 2003 12:13 PM

aku poon dok US jugak study obersea jugak, bertahun tahun.. keje kat US lagi bertahun tahun.. big city laa kan bukan nya mcm Arkansas ala ala kampong itu... nak kata aku nih baik sgt alim sgt, tak jugak.. pakai jugak baju seksi seksi mcm kau sasha... tapi kalo nak menduakan Allah tuh.. oohhh TIDAK... walau dimana poon kita berada, London kaa, America kaa, Malaysia kaa.. Tuhan tuh ada di mana mana... makin jauh kita belajar, makin luas ilmu kita belajar, makin pandai kepala otak kita berpk.. betul kan... itu gunaa nyer belajar jauh jauh... jadik educated.. bukan jadik glamour & publicity murahann.. (apa CLASS)last last degree poon tak dapat... every semester extend extend.. heheh.. mcm tak biasa kaann.. ambik degree 4 tahun jadik 6,7 tahun mcm ambik doc...
kalo takat dapat jantan America kampong Arkansas (ala ala Little Rock tuh) tok sah lerrr nak di bangga kan.. mcm aku tak sampai Arkansas kampong nak mampus tuh... tak der apa laa nak di bangga kan kawin laki america kampong tuh hahaha... univerity Maryland?? arrgghhh apa class... carik laaa laki U Harvard kaa, Yale kaaa... top U kat US nun haah.. us army apa kejadah.. ehhh bukan itu suka rela nya org kaa kat US.. hello??? keje ka apa nama nyaaa...
Cerita laa dlm media apa apa poon tak heran laa dok obersea tuh... dah muak dahh bertahun tahun dok sana dari kocik sampai besar... tak der apa laa nak di bangga kann..
biasa laa melayu mcm sasha nih sket sket pe'rak... Sasha di musim panas di London laa, Sasha becuti melawat abang nya Adam laaa.. semua ko nak cerita kat media tuh.. peehhh... kalo dah nak sgt glaomur tuh org tak jeles & tak heran... at least ada moral laa.. jangan jadik berok gi obersea udaaahhhh...

Posted by: sumi at août 21, 2003 12:23 PM

just let them be..let them do what they feel it's necessary.

after all the family was around. Who are we to say what's right or wrong? If so the marrying in the Church makes her an automatic christian then most most probably you should look into yourself and ask how strong is you're faith.

Could faith be that fragile? Most probably as accusing is suddenly ok'ed when suddenly something out of the norm happens?

Most probably is not the best of choice when the location was picked to held the "CIVIL MARRIAGE CEREMONY" but I don't think it's right for anybody to call anybody anything just because they feel it's wrong.

After all I don't think her marriage will make her muslim fans (I don't know anyone who is actually a fan, therefore I don't think there is a fan base at all?) run crazy and marry the next mat salleh they see in a church...

BTW..why are we making such a fuss and demanding her to answer all these questions?

Posted by: blipped at août 21, 2003 12:39 PM

Well, that's the kind of artis we have now. Yang belum jadi artis pun dah berpeluk kat public.. contoh terdekat ialah AKADEMIK FANTASIA.

Semua ini adalah agen yahudi, kafir laknatullah. Buka mata, buka hati.

Seek, and u shall find..

Posted by: mangkuk at août 21, 2003 01:01 PM

Hmmm I don't really know whether it was Christian ceremony or not but should we really speculate?

After all Sasha did "say" from your email moira (which i think was intended for someone else - don't think you should have posted it...) it was a civil marriage ceremony.

We should give her the benefit of the doubt.

Posted by: Sharizal Shaarani at août 21, 2003 01:19 PM

Mengucap Sasha! Mengucap semua yang kata there's no problem kawin kat gereja and such... Back to basic, learn to understand your religion. For those who doesnt care and doesnt really understand why... You have astray too much and you dont even know how to differentiate between good and bad, pahala atau dosa. May Allah bring you all back to the correct path... InsyaAllah...
(Directed only for Muslim)

Posted by: Jonu at août 21, 2003 01:29 PM

Najah has written about this on her blog, you can read her post here.

"The first quote is timely for me personally. Had a bad morning. Thank you very much noname, whoever you are...

Secondly, I find that both quotes are somewhat relevant to a thread on Sharizal's blog on Sasha Saidin's wedding. The 'unofficial' pictures of her wedding has been circulating, and again, the comments attached, as well as comments in the blog, has been, in my opinion, self-righteous and judgmental.

It's good to remind ourselves once in a while, that none of us are perfect."

Posted by: Sharizal Shaarani at août 21, 2003 01:32 PM

Assalamualaikum... Sasha kau kena ingat MELAYU = ISLAM.. Allah dah beri AKAL kat kita... apakah kau dah hilang AKAL?? Kau ingat... jangan buat lawak bangsat aaaa... Wassalam...

Posted by: 4444 at août 21, 2003 02:04 PM

Sasha...

Nauzubilah min zalik..... apa dah jadi ni!! Mak Oi!

I myself leave in overseas for more than 11 years, but yet I will never forget where my Islam ancestors come from. I myself have close friends with non-Christian people, no matter what they say or try to convert me, I will ALWAYS know and believe in my religion. Being a muslim girl and leaving in a foreign country without parents or the loved ones around, it can be difficult. However, we as a MUSLIM Girl can never, I repeat NEVER! EVER! forget that we are MUSLIM and the meaning of RESPECT and family is very important in life. Without ALLAH S.W.T we won't be here first of all... also, without the belief in the religion at first when we were born, we/you/i won't grow up beautifully and successfully in the world that Allah had created for us. Just remember in the old days of your childhood, when you were born and how your mum and dad hold you in their arms with the joy and love that they gave to you throughout your life. And now, you have BETRAYED the religion itself and your parents!! They won't or say anything to their children when they are actually upset or crushed inside.. it's up to the children to understand their feelings.............

You, Sasha should be ashame of yourself and to your religion. And not to forget AIR MUKA MAK & BAPAK KAMU! Specially, when you're a celebrity... You might have arranged with both families in regards to the Civil Marriage Arrangement, however, you, yourself will have to answer to MALAIKAT when you die!

Okay, I know what you gonna say about me, "Look at yourself first before jadi busy body"... but for ALLAH S.W.T. sake... I will never EVER take my vows in a Church... for your information... I, myself, am married to a beautiful Malay guy (Muslim) in overseas - adat ISLAM dan Melayu... because.. I think that we as women need a husband that can menujuk us ke arah ILLAHI...

Anyways, you do, well you've already done it... whatever you want, its yourlife right! But, you should never forget your roots!! You'll be in your own grave right! so, FACE IT, girl!

Allah is the most merciful & forgiving, almighty, however, when it comes to not believing in Allah anymore... how could you live in this world that the almight had created for you!


Question: Which marriage did you performed first? Chirstian (Civil Marriage) or Muslim?

Posted by: Taty at août 21, 2003 02:26 PM

Cool down ppl.. I know when we're talking about religion, urat semua tegang. But we can be gentle but firm at the same time. DO NOT BASH, JUST REMIND.

Posted by: Freud at août 21, 2003 02:34 PM

Dear all, posted the American part of the wedding in my blog to satisfy some of the commentors here who have not seen them. Go have a looksie and tell me what you think.

Posted by: sarini at août 21, 2003 02:51 PM

according to the little article, the ceremony at the chapel was held on 11 April...mak dia kecoh kat majalah HAI about her going there bringing all the stuff for her kawen day is after yursy-erra's..so, which one did she performed first??

nauzubillah...

Posted by: kuin at août 21, 2003 03:14 PM

Oh my, oh my.

Such anger.
Taty: Perhaps the questions should have come at the beginning of your comment, instead of at the end. Textbook example of shooting first and asking questions later?

And secondly, how do you know she doesn't believe in Allah anymore? Is this a fact? Or did you infer this also?

In essence, I agree with Freud.

Sarini: Are you sure that's a wise step? Did you consult the owners? She does still have a say, you know.

Posted by: Ash.ox at août 21, 2003 03:16 PM

assalammualaikum...

I agree with Freud. Calm down everyone. I know when it comes to religion(esp Islam) related issues we will not tolerate anything that will tarnish our beloved religion. Frankly speaking, I'm proud with everyone of you who can still differentiate between halal/haram, dosa/pahala, etc. But we have to remember people do make mistakes. WE sometimes make mistake. Sasha is no exception. We are all human afterall. So when people do make mistake, our reponsible as brothers/sisters in Islam is to help or guide them back to the right path...how? by giving advice for example. Not by bashing, hentam, kutuk, caci, maki etc..Islam does not teach his followers to do that. Islam is beautiful. If hentam,caci,maki, etc is the way we 'help' our brothers/sisters then don't blame others(non-muslim) if they have the wrong impression/understanding of Islam. So please everyone let's help each other like what Islam teaches us...wallahualam.

ps. I'm not a fan of Sasha..but as a muslim brother, I pity her...

Posted by: jemi at août 21, 2003 03:18 PM

What is all this ridiculousness??!? I always believed that Malaysians were a tolerant and unbiased lot, but apparently not! Anyway, all I want to say is... the most important ceremony is the nikah. Because it is then that the marriage is validated in God's eyes. However, the rest of it is done out of pure respect... for example, a Muslim marrying a Chinese would possibly have a tea ceremony (Chinese style) to respect their spouses culture as well. Where she had it (i.e. in a chapel) is NOT the issue. The issue is, she was already married the "true" way (if you want to say it that way) before that... and the chapel wedding is simply lip-service. Hormat! It doesn't mean a thing. So I say leave them alone. Even if she ends up going to hell (which is NOT for you to decide as human beings)... then it's between her and God.

Posted by: Sheyna at août 21, 2003 03:21 PM

Ash: Yeah, pulled it out already. She does have a say, you're right. Sorry guys!

Posted by: sarini at août 21, 2003 03:21 PM

Good move sarini! *pats* always ask permission from owner first! :)

Posted by: Sharizal Shaarani at août 21, 2003 03:24 PM

Sarini: Good on you, girl! Taknak serabutkan lagi this matter, right?

We all need reminding, remember?

(Kalau tak ingat, just recite Al-Asr)

Posted by: Ash.ox at août 21, 2003 03:28 PM

Thanks, guys. :)

Need to do a bit of reading on the net regarding civil ceremonies and Muslim marriages in America, though.

Posted by: sarini at août 21, 2003 03:32 PM

Hmmm... I wish I was wrong and I tried my best to think positively about this whole wedding issue..but when I read back Sasha's email :

"The ceremony was a CIVIL MARRIAGE CEREMONY and we decided to do it in the states with Jason's family prior to the nikah in London"

Errr did I read the phrase "prior to the nikah in London"??... I thought the ceremony was after the akad nikah...so, the kisses??....

Posted by: jemi at août 21, 2003 03:40 PM

Macam la best sangat kawin ngan mat salleh.
aku yang kawin ngan model jepun pun tak heran & kuno macam dia.......... cakap kat dia bleh jalanla...............

Posted by: mazlan at août 21, 2003 04:03 PM

Have to inject some comments again. If the chapel ceremony was done before the actual nikah in London, then i believe that InsyaAllah Sasha is a muslim now as prior to every nikah, all couple must renew their syahadah. Eventhough out of ignorance, Sasha's syahadah was void due to the chapel ceremony, her renewing the syahadah after that brought her back to Islam. If this is the case (the nikah after the chapel thing), then InsyaAllah, our sister is saved, but do repent and ask for Allah's forgiveness for your ignorant. And we welcome our new brother, Jason.

However, if the chapel ceremony was after the nikah, it's a totally different story. i don't want to comment further, but if that's the case, Sasha, take this matter to JAWI or JAIS, they may help you out. At the meantime, please learn more about islam.

May Allah bless us all, and forgive us for our ignorance.

Posted by: Zull at août 21, 2003 04:08 PM

Assalammualaikum to all,

i've received this post thru a fren and im quite surprised by what ive read today. nevertherless i muz say dat its good to have ppl like Freud, Ash (to name a few) around to remind us of our uncontainable loathe which arises due to uncertainty dat everyone hold strongly to...

Posted by: elnis at août 21, 2003 04:13 PM

Assalamualaikum,

Well, congratulations to Sasha on her marriage. May we all be blessed with the kind of happiness she is clearly feeling.

So here we have her side of the story – at least what appears to be her own confessions... To my very simplistic mind, if she had any sense at all, she should have held the akad nikah FIRST before the civil ceremony, although I am of the opinion that it is her right as a human being to decide not release any photos to the general public, and to have her private ceremonies remain private. But she should have known that as a public figure and a celebrity in Malaysia, anything deemed "scandalous" will spread very, very fast, no matter where in the world it took place. Come on, this is such a small planet. Pi mai, pi mai, tang tu jugak... Absolutely every single corner of this earth has been explored and is accessible to almost anyone with a mind to do so.

However, this does not change the reason for the public’s shocked reaction. Only Sasha and Allah would know if that was champagne in her glass – remember, we only saw the glass in the photo. She's right, we are not God – only Allah is all seeing, all judging, all powerful. But what about kissing the "husband" before akad nikah? Were the haram/halal issues in consideration at all? Although it is true that the civil ceremony must be done in order for the marriage to be registered overseas, the difference is that most other Muslims have their respective akad nikahs BEFORE the civil ceremonies.

I think Sasha is missing the point here. What we are concerned about is not whether she had a civil marriage or not, but about the religious aspects to the whole thing. Sasha missed the point that she is seen to have been BORN a Muslim, and as such is deemed to BE a Muslim and is expected, if not to apply the religious teachings in ALL aspects of her life, then to at least act within the boundaries of Islam.

Let me reiterate this point – what shocked the public was the fact that the civil ceremony took place without the akad nikah taking place first. We do not have the "batal air sembahyang" ceremony before akad nikah – the same rule applies.

But who are we to make judgements – we are not the Almighty Allah. And let's not have any misconceptions, either. As is mentioned in Sasha’s email, it is her civil marriage ceremony; nowhere did it say a CHRISTIAN ceremony in a CHURCH. But I also understand the sentiments and the shocked reaction, and thus the reason for the quick spread of the photos, faster than wildfire.

Life in Malaysia is changing. We now have Muslims (practicing or otherwise, only Allah can tell) who openly drink alcohol in public, fornicate and are adulterous. We have Muslim men who clearly do not attend Friday prayers, but instead are found sitting around, just hanging out you might say, in shopping malls, restaurants or coffee shops, instead of listening to the khutbah and attending the Friday solat with others in the mosques. Believe it or not, civil marriages (without akad nikah) do happen especially when one half of the couple is non-Muslim, but what makes Sasha's case so "special" is due to the fact that she enjoys a celebrity status here in Malaysia.

The only thing we can do is to take "iktibar" from all this, to try and reinforce the Islamic values in ourselves – to differentiate between what is right and wrong, halal and haram, and to reinforce the same values in our children. One tip, read the ingredients list of all that you buy and eat – not everything that is found on the shelves of the local supermarkets and hypermarkets are halal, even if they do not mention pork or lard as listed ingredients (they are sometimes labelled as numbers, for example, E471). Not everything is labelled halal, and not everything that contains haram ingredients is labelled haram.

Enough of my chattering... This is reality – the world as we know it is ending. Inilah yang dinamakan dunia akhir zaman. Life on earth is only temporary, but the afterlife is everlasting.

Posted by: Ida at août 21, 2003 04:23 PM

I second Sheyna's comment. I dont see the issue here. Even the so called "traditional" malay wedding (which includes the bersanding ceremony) is based on hindu wedding ritual. No one made any fuss about that.

Posted by: Mr. Jones at août 21, 2003 04:40 PM

What's supposed to be said has been said ~ including what shouldn't :P

My first impression upon seeing the photos was:
If it's true, then 'bertaubatlah' as Allah is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful, Most Kind. Dear friend, remember your roots.

However, if it's untrue (no matter how it can be 'untrue'), still, remember your roots.

A reminder to myself, you, and all.

Posted by: Arboq at août 21, 2003 04:52 PM

P/s:
Thanx to Sharizal for the opportunity/ space to ponder/ x-press our thots ;)

Posted by: Arboq at août 21, 2003 04:56 PM

Air yg dia minum tu, maybe bukan wine laa kengkawan. Maybe air tuh sparkling cider. Sparkling cider ni ialah jus apple yg berkarbonat. Rupa dan kaler macam laa white wine. Tapi takde alkohol. In fact, kat mesia pun banyak dah jual sparkling cider ni...macam kat Xtra dan Giant. Kenapa? Tak percaya ke? Pergi laa Xtra or Giant...RM4++ jek. Tak memabukkan.

So, friends...give her a break laa.

Posted by: Julie at août 21, 2003 06:23 PM

PANTAT MAK KAU LA SASHA. NAK GLAMER BUAT BLUE CAM NORAZLIN TU. TAK PUN PAKAI TUDUNG PAS TU TERKINJA2 CAM OGY MAT DAUD. CINTA KEPALA HOTAK KAU. KAU INGAT ISLAM AGAMA NIAT KE. KAU SKOLAH DARJAH BRAPER NI. BODOH, MAK KAU PUN BODOH, BAPAK KAU 2 KALI BODOH.MAT SALEH TAK SUNAT TU PUN BODOH.APA TAH NAMA DIA.SEDARA MARA, KAWAN2 KAU YG BAHAGIA TENGOK KAU KAWIN....LAGI LA BODOH.DLM DUNIA TAKDE AYAT BUSY2 BODY NI,TU AYAT YAHUDI (KALAU KAU YAHUDI, KAU PAKAI LA AYAT NI). DLM ISLAM KENA BUSY BODY, KALAU TAK, JADI CAM POMPUAN BANGANG NI LA, BODOH, PAS TU TAK MAHU TANYA, YG LAIN TENGOK, TAK NAK BUSY BODY(AYAT YAHUDI NI LAGI).BODOH.

AKU INGAT KAU NI ANAK HARAM LA. BUKAN TUDUH, TUDUH TAK BAIK, AKU INGAT JER. CUBA KAU TANYA MAK KAU.SEBAB, GOLONGAN NI DARI KALANGAN 'KITA' YG AKAN ROSAK KAN AGAMANYA DIAKHIR ZAMAN.TAK PUN KAU TANYA BAPAK KAU. DIA TAHU BILA DIA PANCUT.SASHA BODOH.SAIDIN PUN BODOH.LAKI KAU STUPID FOOL.MAK MERTUA KAU KAYU.

NANTI GAMBAR KAU MAIN KAU KIRIM LA KAT URTV, LAGI GLAMER. POS KAT JUWIE BAPOK TUA TU. APER LA ARTIS MELAYU 'ISLAM' KITA NAK BUAT PAS NI. BLUE DAH BUAT, MURTAD, NI BANGANG NI DAH BUAT, ISAP DADAH, BERLAMBAK. BODOH. YG BACA PUN BODOH.

C.C.
FUCK SAIDIN AND FAMILY FOR HUMILIATE UR RELEGION
FUCK MALAYSIAN MUSLIM FOR IGNORING THIS
FUCK GOVERMENT FOR NO LAW FOR THIS
FUCK AMERICAN FOR KILLING IRAQIS


Posted by: ganja at août 21, 2003 08:57 PM

BODOH!!!

Posted by: ganja at août 21, 2003 08:59 PM

Wei ganja... jaga perangai sikit... dah guna ayat yg tak patut, memburukkan agama aderlarrr.. is this you want to portray for being a muslim... aper you akan pikir kalu org panggil mak kau sendiri pantat? Aper... you mum lahir you kat rumah pelacur ker? Fikir larr sikit.. ini internet... this can be read all over the world.

Biasalarrr org malaysia esp. org melayu kita nih.. mulut memang tak dijaga... memikirkan aper org lain buat, tak tertidur mlm, mandi tak basah, makanan tak disentuh..

Biasalarrr, mulut org kita. Cabul. Tak terjaga... jgn terperanjat, bila diadili di akhirat, this is one of the thing that could get you to hell.

Memang larrr sasha tuh terkenal. Mungking bende yg dibuat nyer tuh salah tapi salah ke betul ker, berdosa nak mampus ker, itu ditgn tuhan. bukan kita. I don't think in Muslim, Diajar kalu beragama lain, akan masuk ke neraka.

Posted by: Malaysian... at août 21, 2003 09:57 PM

Wow! It is pretty shocking and sad sometimes, to hear supposedly ‘Muslim’ brothers & sisters use such harsh language, crude words, and hateful expression when uttering supposedly words of advice. Just remember that while we zealously pointing one finger toward a person, three fingers are pointing directly toward ourselves.

“A man cannot be a Muslim till his heart and tongue are so.”
“The exercise of religious duties will not atone for the fault of an abusive tongue.”
Those are a couple of sayings from the Prophet Muhammad (may peace be upon him.)

If the only things we could ‘squeeze’ out of looking at the photos are anger and total disbelief, then maybe it is time that we should start looking at ourselves deeply, and find compassion in our heart. It is time to open our eyes to the real situations in this world where people fight and kill each other in the name of religion. As a Muslim I totally understand that we can get very ‘passionate’ when talking about our faith. However, as a Muslim, I also understand that we have no right to judge a person’s faith, let alone accuse him or her of ‘abandoning’ the faith just based on what we see in photos. If we are sincere and qualified, and if we think a person has erred, then go ahead, be a beam of guidance to that person; however, be a beam that is kind, compassion, and pleasing to the heart, and not a beam that is so powerful that it kills as soon as it touches the soul.

To Sasha & husband: Good luck with your marriage, and may God bless you.

Posted by: NJE at août 21, 2003 11:49 PM

Ganja, although I welcome all sorts of discussion please do not abuse it. Take heed from what freudian said. If you go on like this, no one will ever take u seriously and worse still think very little of you. Please be tactful.

Posted by: Sharizal Shaarani at août 22, 2003 12:03 AM

this is truly SUCKS!!

Posted by: q at août 22, 2003 12:22 AM

i was about to respond to a person who indentified him/her self as "X" and sarinah zainudin but hey, all the answers are there... which is much better than what I had in mind... I agree with 'NJE', 'Malaysian','Julie', 'Sheyna','Freud', and few others...

Sasha and Saidin, May God Bless you and your future generation. You'll be in my prayer.

p/s: yes Sarinah, i am still here in philly. hopefully be back for a short vacation next year.

Posted by: andrison at août 22, 2003 12:49 AM

I read everything....some are too emotional....If we look at our religion's perspective....being harsh is not an ultimate solution....like some of the post stated...we neeed to remind each other...It's clearly stated that Civil Marriage is not in our Religion...there's no way we can rebutt that.....so it's up to her...we have done our duty as a Muslim to remind her.....it's up to her to do her part now.....but to all others...stop using bad words..it's no use....if u r really a Muslim..then I think all that is uncalled for...

Posted by: Coolz at août 22, 2003 01:33 AM

Didn't notice the entire hullabaloo until Shahrizal highlighted it in his blog. Who would have thought the photos would have generated such reactions?

One can almost smell the religious self-righteous mobilising.

This is a classic scene of mob jury. It is not limited to the religiously devout. It is a most common tool in human history to wield the hammer of conformity. Of course, some muslims here are MERELY concerned about Sasha. That's why they cajoled and they ridiculed, they threatened and they are abusive. Nothing creates a more vivid concern than images of rabid foul mouths with foams seeping through the corners of their mouths.

Of course, it is quite a potent mix. Malaysians, like other dim-witted individuals around the world, feel that celebrities are held accountable to their fans' opinions just because they know them from t.v.. Quick to assume a position on the lecturing podium, your average general public will go "oooh" or "aaah" to hear about their exploits and pass on their own two cents on the matter.

Of course, there will be those who said that they are merely using abusive language because they want to show others the err of their ways.

Apparently, forms and rituals are pretty important to religions. It doesn't matter what one's actual faith is like (not quantifiable), but one is expected to generate an outward radianca of piousity. That's why it is so important for some to APPEAR Islamic, although credo of the religion is not worn on the sleeves of your clothing.

Muslims can draw whatever conclusion they like about Sasha and her husband. The obsession with details of ritualistic manuevers and ceremonies are sickening. The bigotry and blind hatred are nauseating. She is a human person too and some people here can assault her life and pass judgements on her character. I hope she doesn't listen to any of the crap here. She doesn't have to.

Perhaps this is the failure of the message of Islam. A muslim is bombarded with labels of apostacy because she chose to have a civil marriage performed. Never mind some of you here apparently don't know why it is necessary. I wonder how many here understands the concept of domiciles.

The muslims in Malaysia probably didn't realize that taking marriage out of civil laws in this country is effectively a discrimination and direct violation of the Constitution. Then again, in Bolehland, it has always been like that. Asalkan jalan, semua boleh.

All the more pity when the hype is circled around ceremonies, forms and facade of religiousity. Some romanticised visions of religion (the good old days) are invoked, some went straight after character assassination, and some even wrought elements of please-marry-made-in-Malaysia-only to parade nationalistic sentiments.

Apparently, Islamic education in this country isn't doing very well.

It all boils down to the division in the muslim community itself. Those who wants to make religious errs punishable by law (death to the apostates eh?) and those who still have their head screwed on and say, "hey, religious posturing is one thing, but each individual human has rights". Faith is a personal matter. The day you allow the government to regulate your faith, you risk the tempering your religion and tying its fate with the mortal ambitions of man.

I wish Sasha and Saidin a happy marriage. Life is a journey. Life is a bitch too. There are well-intentioned people who are really concerned. However, there are always far more zealous loudmouths.

Dressing up in a three-piece suit doesn't make you anymore western.

Malaysians...

Posted by: chez1978 at août 22, 2003 02:10 AM

Assalamu alai ibadi lahissolehin,

A few points for chez1978 and others:

General:
You should not imbue an intent to people which is not explicitly stated, unless it is a good intent (niat). Recall the hadith which roughly says that you should make 70 excuses for your fellow muslim before you believe they made a mistake.

We are bound to judge people by what is apparent (their actions) precisely because we are incapable of judging iman.

The specifics of actions, ceremonies, etc. do matter in Islam. e.g. Salat is entirely ritualized worship, yet a famous hadith of rasulullah says what roughly means "salat is the difference between iman and kufr."

It is hypocritical to claim that "faith" is an entirely personal matter but then demand one's rights from the Malay and/or Muslim communities.

Specific:
This issue was not brought up by merely by someone "hacking" Sasha's computer and trying to "run her down". It appears that there was a public annoucement in a newspaper stating that her parent's were announcing a ceremony that would be held at Thorncrown (chapel).

The website for Thorncrown states that "Since Thorncrown Chapel is a Christian organization, all ceremonies must be Christ-centered and scriptural."

A civil marriage was not necessary. I, myself, am an American who was married in Malaysia. My marriage was recognized by my country without further action.

So:
This is a discussion board. According to the owner, Sasha sent in her photos to be posted. Comments are an inherent part of this site. Thus, she, herself, has made it a topic of discussion. Hence, I don't think that it is unjust that some clarification of exactly what happened was requested and it is most appropriate that it take place here since she has "links" with this site. So, she can give the clarification or not. If she doesn't though, she should not be shocked if the people don't want to give her her rights, just or not.

A suggestion:
Actually, I only know who Sasha is due to the current stories. (I have spent about a year in Malaysia over the past few years but only know the "big" Malaysian stars like Michelle Yeoh, Siti Nurhaliza, Erra Fazira, etc.) So, I am interested in this just because she is supposedly a "sister" and I see issues like this among the Malay quite often. (I find the "furor" a little silly because she looks like many of the Malays who treat Muslim as some sort of cultural identification rather than ad-din. Perhaps, this is also why some of them are abusive.)

Anyways, I think it would help if she would simply clarify exactly what are her and the husband's beliefs. I think most people would think it a bad decision but could see how they might want to do the ceremony for the husband's family.

She should specifically dispel the notion that perhaps her husband was simply doing the shahadah and masjid ceremonies merely for the sake of her family.

Unless she wants to say otherwise, let us ignore the possibility that she was doing the masjid ceremony just for the sake of her family.

This leaves open the door to the possiblity that they can improve in their amal over time (as we all should strive) rather than moving away from this as it appears, which I think is the issue.

(Sasha, This suggestions if for you and your husband, and you supposedly follow this blog, so what do you say?)


Lastly, I remind my brothers and myself that if she and her husband affirm that they are muslims, are committed to Islam as ad-din, are in error of things only due to ignorance, and make good on this, then it is their right that we think good of them. Leave bigger judgements to those who have specific knowlege of the situation, fiqh, and aqidah, and remember that Allah states in Qur'an "... Huwa 'alamu bilmuhtadiin"

Regards,
HY


Posted by: HY at août 22, 2003 06:32 AM

Melayu itu tidak semestinya Islam...

Regards,
Fitri

Posted by: Fitri at août 22, 2003 09:20 AM

Typical Malay.

When people are succesful, every single actions they do are seen from the negative side.

All this while they were sleeping when these people people toiled upwards to reach where they are today.

Yes, we as human made mistake. And we will even make more mistake when we struggle to achieve something worthwhile.

But that is much better than just watching back and sit and tell people what they are not suppose to do...

This is what our prime minister says, the malay dilemma.

It is ok when a Malay bersanding.
But it is not ok when it is an artist who just wanted to do it slightly different.

And as far as we muslims are concerned, we don't need to recognise 'church'. It is just another building...

Posted by: Hercavotica at août 22, 2003 10:14 AM

semoga sasha diberkhati ALLAH!
hanya ALLah yg mengetahui apa yg dah di lalukannya

Posted by: long at août 22, 2003 10:43 AM

Memang itu hak dia, dosa kat Allah dia yang jawab sendiri di akhirat.

Tapi.... bukan ke alasan-alasan yang dia beri tu tak LOGIK.

Akhir zaman banyak ISLAM tapi tak faham erti ISLAM
Setakat nama saja yang ada BIN atau BINTI,
Setakat NAWAITU saja,
PERBUATAN tu mana.....
Nak solat pun kena ISLAM dulu, NAWAITU dan PERBUATAN....
Sama-sama lah kita renungkan....

Posted by: lagendamerah at août 22, 2003 10:55 AM

assalamualaikum.

>>shasha..i met u once.last year if im not mistaken.dekat hyatt kuantan.that time i wuz getting off d lift.u were with another lady.if u ingat la.

saya nie tak de la arif sangat pasal agama.tapi dalam tak arif2 pun,sebagai seorang Muslimah rukun Iman,rukun Islam,fardhu ain and all the basic knowledge n practical of Islam insyaAllah saya tahu la.and Islam bukan agama teori..bukan agama untuk sekadar menjadi bahan percakapan/perbualan etc.and Islam is not only about religous aspects , but much much more than that.Ingat,Islam tuh adalah ad Din..ia bukan setakat beribadah,bukan setakat kasi salam bila bertemu saudara seagama..bukan setakat bismillah sebelum makan,atau solat 5 kali sehari. nie kita kena bear in mind..Islam IS a way of living.kiranya semua yg kita niatkan,ucapkan,lakukan atau ekspresikan,haruslah berlandaskan Islam.

now we see a case whereby a Muslim lady civil marriage ceremony..it raises our attention coz she's from a malaysian artist.but atop of that,she IS our muslim sister..menjadi tanggungjawab masing2 untuk menjaga pegangan agama dan ketuhanan.. in other words,umat Islam nie boleh digambarkan sebagai a wall brick la..masing2 support d wall so that it wont runtuh..if slack kat on of bricks,the wall will crumble down.

another thing,kita perlu cermin diri kita dahulu...r we doing our best to uphold our religion..??nie sikap orang Malaysia.amnya masyarakat Melayu..bila ada jer someone well known buat slack..(samada org tuh pemimpin,artis mahupun org kenamaan),semua mengambil sikap utk hanya menuding jari terhadap org tuh..pada pendapat saya la,ILMU AGAMA itu adalah penting. dan dalam Islam,orang yang mengamal ilmunya,orang itulah yang akan mendapat keredhaan dan pahala dari Allah..bila kawan2/keluarga kita yg terdekat buat slack kita ada tegur tak??did we play our part as a Muslim society..abang atau ayah kita kalu tak pi sembahyang jumaat,ada kita tegur tak? or adik perempuan kita balik lewat coz hang out with her frens or boyfren kita ada tegur tak?? mak kita selalu maki hamun ayah depan adik2 kita, kita ada tegur tak?jiran sebelah rumah sakit kita ada pi menjeguk tak??benda2 macam nie,kalau kita tak tegur akan menular kepada prk2 yg lagi besar.. we can see our Muslim society today semakin 'berani' di khalayak ramai.mangsanya obviously those ppl often comes on tv rite.. wutever happened to our generasi muda today?? nie mungkin tak melibatkan semua,tapi some of their parents mengambil sikap ignorant towards religous sensitive issues..

why i am babbling about this thing is that,we musnt see things in one direction only.. betul tak?..apa faktor2 yg menyebabkan perkara2 yg jahannam berlaku..is it only fair to semata2 mencaci sasha coz dia buat ceremony kat kat church/chapel..imannya mungkin belum kuat lagi..pengetahunnya tentang agama mungkin masih cetek(im not saying im better than her)..she mentioned her family dah deal bout this thingy. y is dat so??y her family so 'relax' and cool bout this..

kita prnah terfikir tak nanti anak2 kita nie senasib dengan orang yg melakukan kerosakan di muka bumi Allah..mencemarkan nama Islam.. meduakan Tuhan mahupun mempermainkan agama kerana sikap yg sambil lewa dan slumber.kena fikir semua tuh..keburukan orang sepatutnya membuat kita lagi tawadduk dan berusaha supaya kita di kalangan umat Islam yg tak akan lari dari landasan agama..semoga kita mati dalam keimanan.semoga anak cucu kita juga hidup dan mati dalam Iman.

to SASHA..awak dah lakukan sesuatu yg berjaya menarik perhatian ramai..you're not a small kid,you're a Muslim woman.and as one,there are roles that you share with other Muslim women thru out d world that is to uphold ur fatih n religion. bab2 hukum hakam,please please rujuk kat orang2 yg arif dan alim..go back to the basic. ingat,hidup kita hanya sekali.hidup di dunia nie hanya medan perhentian sahaja..a place where Allah tests us human..sekarang nie ur husband i believe is already a Muslim.dia sebagai suami memang ler dia yg ketua.tapi you as an Original muslim,should be more prepared with ilmu keagamaan so that u can guide him.. sorry if im making u mad,but ive seen many people yg convert just to 'halal-ize' d marriage and b accepted my his or her in-laws.but what ever happens after that memang barai.go to pubs,minum,judi etc.its not funny coz its real.

ive been to Muslim homes where they have wine in their refrigerator/bar.. terkejut gaks. dressing jangan cakap la.so,setakat dan selagi kita mampu,teruskanlah untuk memartabakatkan agama kita..yg penting adalah ilmu..dan ilmu itu perlulah diamalkan.jangan dok ikut orang jer. kawan nak pakai tudung,kita ikut sama..kalu macam nie keadaan masyarakat sekarang ,..hancus kita nanti.

kepada parents out there,take note d message which im trying to convey..kepada teenagers,especiallu pelajar2 sekolah menengah dan IPT,plz gunakan masa yg muda ini untuk mula mengamalkan apa yg sepatutnya diamalkan.. jangan sesekali berjinak2 dengan syaitan..nanti hancur. examples are much well known already..kepada pemimpin..PM,bakal PM,MB ..a.k.a ahli2 politik dan juga jabatan agama/dakwah, all of you akan disoal di akhirat kelak tentang d masyarkat which u r leading..berjaya atau gagalkah anda ?? di u try ur best ?? and if nak guide orang pon,make sure kita sendiri pegang agama itu sekuat yg mungkin..nobody wants to be a munafik,syirik or pendusta.

harap semmuanya jelas dengan apa yg cuba saya perkatakan.my sentences may be a lil bit skema and a mixture of d 2 language..but most importantly,jaga dan perbetulkan diri sendiri.semoga Allah mengampun dosa2 parents kita,umat Islam yg masih hidup mahupun sudah kembali kerahmatullah, dan semoga Allah memberi petunjuk dan pertolongan kepada kita agar menguatkan keimanan kita..

juliana ali-ampang/KL

Posted by: Juliana Ali at août 22, 2003 11:59 AM

sorry..ada pembetulan siket..paragraph 5 ,line 2.. "faktor2 yg menyebabkan perkara2 yg jahannam berlaku..is it only fair to semata2 mencaci sasha coz "..tersilap tuh.what i meant to write wuz..>>>> "..jg jahannam berlaku..it is not fair to semata2 mencaci sasha coz"..(sorry ekk)

Posted by: Juliana Ali at août 22, 2003 12:06 PM

What an extraordinary discussion. Two people have committed their lives to each other, eternally. Yet, everyone else seems to only see the importance of the the wedding rituals.

Imagine if you lived in once-war-torn Bosnia as a Muslim. You are about to get married - the only building left standing in the area was a church. Would your marriage be any less a marriage in the eyes of God if you held it in a church? To God, there is no difference in His eyes, if you are Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Baha'i or even an atheist. In matters not to Him where you choose to marry, live or even pray.

All is required of you is that you do your very best to BE morally right. To love others, to help others, to NEVER judge others, to do good. Before you question someone about their steadfastness to their religion - question yourself. Rules and rituals are not what bring you closer to God, love does.

Posted by: prema at août 22, 2003 12:24 PM

Rasulullah kata:
"Man tashabbahu kauman, fahua minhum"

Enough said. I rest my case.

Posted by: ifa at août 22, 2003 12:35 PM

It's me again. I'm more irked by some comments than Sasha's doing. like I've put it earlier, if the nikah was after the chapel thing, InsyaAllah Sasha is a muslim now.
But,to simply say that God will accept any marriage regardless or where or how is utterly nonsensical. To Prema, muslims can get married in church, provided that the events are done in a muslim way. Nobody is questioning the venue, here, but the events itself, in a christian way. As HY put it. Any muslim who acknowledges other religion's rituals as right is susceptible to blasphemy.
Prema, if you do not know about Islam, don't talk about it.

Kudos HY

Posted by: Zull again at août 22, 2003 12:49 PM

well, at first I thought it was a hoax.. someone was trying to blackmail Shasha Saidin. Sadly, it was true, and I can't believe what she wrote in her mail.. this is one of many things christians did in trying to 'menjatuhkan' umat Islam, secara halus. And some of our people gladly accepts that. Bukalah mata, bukalah hati.. semoga Allah memberi kekuatan kpd kita sbg umat Islam meneruskan perjuangan agama Allah.

p/s: the idea of converting chapel/church for solat jumaat is common.. we did that too in UK before a mosque nearby our area was built for muslims (boleh kata darurat) but wedding in chapel.. nauzubillah.. moga jadi pedoman buat semua.

Posted by: adline at août 22, 2003 01:10 PM

Cuba kita tanya diri kita, nak check kita ni Islam ke tidak:

Rukun Islam (untuk jadi orang Islam)
1. Mengucap 2 kalimah syahadah
> Bila last sekali kita mengucapkan 2 kalimah syahadah? Kalau dah lama tak solat, then aku rasa takkan kau nak ambik wuduk, duduk mengadap kiblat, angkat jari, panggil saksi, then mengucap aje tiap2 hari untuk proof kita Islam. Sebab tu kita di wajibkan solat, supaya mengingatkan diri kita yang kita tu Islam, ada batasan, dan kena 5 kali sehari ingatkan diri pada Allah dan Rasulullah s.a.w. So, kalau tak solat, then tak lah kita baca tahyat awal dan akhir, so tak lah mengucap. Sebab akidah kita boleh terpseong tiap2 hari buat benda yang menggugat iman, jadi kena maintain sebagai orang Islam dengan mengingatkan diri pada Allah dengan mengucap.
“ Aku naik saksi bahawa tiada Tuhan yang disembah melainkan Allah dan Nabi Muhammad itu adalah pesuruh-Nya” adalah secara lisan dan hati akan bersyukurnya kita menjadi umatnya.

2. Mengerjakan solat 5 waktu sehari semalam
> Solat ialah cara kita mengabdikan seluruh tubuh badan kita menyembah-Nya. Mulai dari hati (niat), lidah, tangan, mata, telinga dan fikiran terpusat dengan susunan rukun sembahyang yang diajar oleh Rasulullah. So, kita wajib solat. Kalau tak solat, then kita telah lupakan Allah.

3. Mengeluarkan zakat
> Tanya diri sendiri, tax bayar tak? Bayar. Tapi zakat? Tax diwajibkan kerajaan, zakat diwajibkan oleh Allah. Eh, mana satu nak pilih. Kan ke boleh bayar zakat and bagitau income tak office yang kita dah bayar zakat, so income tax boleh deduct lah zakat yg telah dibayar. Tak bayar zakat, then kita dah ambil apa yang bukan hak kita. Allah dah bagi nyawa pada kita, apalah salahnya bagi zakat atas nama Allah. yang untung tu kita nanti kat akhirat.

4. Berpuasa sebulan di bulan Ramadhan
> Untuk berasa insaf dan taqwa pada Allah, kita diwajibkan berpuasa untuk membuktikan kita boleh menahan nafsu. Dahlah taip2 hari ramai antara kita yang tak tutup aurat, tengak benda2 yang tak boleh tengok, buat benda2 yang tak boleh buat, so dalam bulan ni lah kita boleh train diri kita untuk menolak semua tu. baru lah tebal iman kita. Kalau tak puasa sebab nafsu atau buat2 sakit, Allah tahu, tak payah lah nak temberang, nanti Allah bagi betul2 sakit baru tau. Makan dalam rumah, bukan Allah tak tau, nanti Allah ambik rezeki baru kamu tau. Tapi ada yang berbangga dgnn berjaya tak puasa sebulan tapi tak kena tangkap pun...cerita lagi kat kawan2....aku ada bos melayu dulu, siap suruh staf yang bukan islam mintak tolong belikan lunch, then makan dlm ofis. masa meeting, dia siap ckp, eh sorry I tak puasa, makan biskut kering dgn teh o dlm meeting. member2 aku yg cina pun rasa malu tengok perangai org "islam" macam tu.

5. Mengerjakan Haji di Baitullah
> Pada yg mampu, kena lah spend sikit untuk Allah, kalau boleh spend bnyk2 pun takpe. kena pergi mengadap Allah dan experience kewajipan yang Allah tuntut. Kena sembah Allah dengan harta kita. Berhijrah ke Mekkah ialah satu pengorbanan untuk Allah bagi kita umatnya.

JADINYA, JAWAB CHECKLIST INI (YES or NO):
Contoh:
1. Mengucap 2 kalimah syahadah (NO)
2. Mengerjakan solat 5 waktu sehari semalam (NO)
3. Mengeluarkan zakat (NO)
4. Berpuasa sebulan di bulan Ramadhan (NO)
5. Mengerjakan Haji di Baitullah (NO)

Kalau semua jawapan di atas di jawab no or not yet, macamana nak panggil diri kita Islam. Adakah setakat nama saja Islam, tapi perbuatan semua macam bukan Islam. Adakah itu kita nak claim dengan Allah yang kita deserve masuk syurga sebab kita Islam??? Masya'allah, cubalah penuhi rukun islam di atas, baru lah boleh claim yang kita Islam.

Boss lama aku, nama aje Islam, bukan nak tuduh, tapi kita tahu lah dia sembahyang ke tidak. Memang tak pernah nampak dia sembahyang. Then one day, dia bukak cerita, dia tanya aku, mana ada dlm quran yang suruh kita solat 5 waktu? Sebab tu dia tak solat. Time jumaat, ajaklah dia berapa kali pun, 2 tahun aku kerja dengan dia, tak pernah dia nak ikut. Dia kata pergi lah dulu. Then dia akan pergi lunch dgn kuncu "melayu" dia yg lain. Puasa? 2 kali ramadhan, asik makan kfc lah, mcm2 lah tiap2 hari. Haji? Kalau solat pun dia query kenapa, then apa lagi pergi haji, dan zakat...! Entah lah apa nak jadi dgn org melayu kat malaysia nih

Posted by: melayu islam at août 22, 2003 02:17 PM

SASHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA,
Please answer this one!
I surfed the website of the Eureka Springs Throncrown Chapel and FOUND THIS sentence!!!:

Under Other Rules & Requirements:
.....
.....bla bla bla, then

"Out of state ministers must register their license at a county courthouse in the State of Arkansas prior to performing a wedding in the chapel. Guest ministers must send a copy of their wedding ceremony two weeks prior to the wedding. Since Thorncrown Chapel is a Christian organization, all ceremonies must be Christ-centered and scriptural. The chapel reserves the right to refuse any ceremony or part thereof not in accordance with the by-laws of Thorncrown Chapel.

http://www.thorncrown.com/new_page_3.htm

Posted by: melayu islam at août 22, 2003 02:35 PM

Some words of advise;

For those who have gone too far in your 'advise', please ISTIGFAR.

Rasulullah s.a.w. pernah melihat Jibril menangis lalu bertanya, " Wahai Jibril, kenapa engkau menangis padahal di sisi Allah s.w.t. engkau
amatlah tinggi?"

Jibril menjawab, "Ya Muhammad tiada yang dapat menjamin keamananku, walaupun kedudukkan ku sangat dekat dengan Allah s.w.t. Tetapi
aku takut kalau Allah s.w.t. hendak mengubah kedudukkan ku atau mengujiku sebagaimana Harut & Marut & iblis terkutuk itu."

Untuk dijadikan renungan: Walaupun kedudukkan Rasulullah s.a.w. & Jibril a.s. tersangat tinggi di sisi Allah s.w.t....Mereka masih menangis
takut..KITA????
Mudah-mudahan Allah s.w.t. menghidupkan hati-hati kita dengan nur keimanan...marilah kita berusaha supaya zulmah yang ada pada hati kita terhakis agar hati kita menjadi bersih...

"...Our Lord! Forgive us our sins and remit from us our evil deeds, and make us die in the state of righteousness along with Al-Abrar those who
are obedient to Allah and follow strictly His Orders)." [Al-Quran 3:193]

Posted by: just me at août 22, 2003 03:04 PM

allooooo...
i am disagree to Hannah (posted on 21st August)about 'nawaitu'. In everything that we do in our life...follow by islamic rules...and the rules come from Allah...when our creator said cannot, it means CANNOT..so..bab2x nawaitu bukan sumer perkara boleh pakai nawaitu jerk..kalo sasha kawen kat chapel,then have a drink (wine) even a sip..Allah tetap jatuhkan haram...ada priest lak tu..still nak kater 'nawaitu'...think twice before you wrote/said la....niat tidak menghalalkan cara..ingat tu!!!

Posted by: Buzz at août 22, 2003 03:10 PM

Dear sasha,

pls dont do like this as this humiliate your religion and misunderstood 'others' about our relegion.

YOU WANT ME TO USE THESE WORDS TO STUPID GIRL LIKE HER. HEY...WHAT SHE HAS DONE IS SERIOUS.TAK SMAYANG, TAK PUASA TU DOSA. INI MURTAD BANG.LAIN KES NYA. HUKUM NYA ATAS DUNIA KORANG TAHU KE APER, BUNUH. KAT AKHIRAT BARU ANTARA DIA NGAN TUHAN.THATS HOW SERIOUS ISLAM IN THIS CASE. KITA DOK BAGI PENDAPAT2 BANGANG LAGI. JGN KISAH LA WORDS YG AKU PAKAI.JANJI MESEJ NYA SAMPAI.'ORANG DIA' PAKAI GOOD, NICE WORDS, TAPI SAMPAI NAK ABIS SEDARA KITA KAT IRAQ, PALASTIN, BOSNIA SANA 'DIAORG' SEMBELIH. BANGUN LA WOII. APA CITER KITA NI.NAK KEMANA KITA NI.

korang tengok la aper non muslim opinion.tegas la sikit, ader ke non muslim ckp sasha have done the wrong thing?smua sebelah dia, thats mean against islam.but in good word, right?say fuck to them, you dont know us. if u good to us, we reply it 10x.if u bad, we r 10x bad.

Posted by: ganja at août 22, 2003 05:27 PM

SAPER JUMPER SASHA.....GIVE HER MY MIDDLE FINGER

PERANGAI BURUK KENA DILAYAN DENGAN CARA BURUK. PIG!!

Posted by: ganja at août 22, 2003 05:35 PM

Assalamualaikum....It seems almost everyone share the same sentiments.well i wont speak much.But what i can say is walaupun kubur masing masing tetapi have u all heard about subahat? And if im not wrong Islam tell us that if u see kemungkaran depan mata U CANT KEEP QUIET BECOS WE OUGHT TO HELP EACH OTHER BY NOT BEING A BUSY BODY OR JUZ LEAVE IT AS IT IS COS IT DOESNT CONCERN U..U ARE NOT HELPING YOUR FELlow muslims.I think most of us are concern and kemungkaran depan mata so we have to do something. But well there is always a soft approach. If tak menjadi baru the hard Approach. For those who says..biarkan dia..asalkan dia bahagia or so called happy for her (subtly) u meredhakan kemungkaran itu..Let's help our muslims ppl. Dun ignore it do something but In A NICER AND PEACEFUL WAY

Posted by: Concern at août 22, 2003 06:09 PM

sha... cam tu la lawa...
anyway, may God Bless u and Johan
....
i'm waiting to be 1 of your fan
2 be invited 4 your wedding in kl..
jemputle yek...

u nyanyi le ngan elite bila wedding u nanti..
take care

Posted by: andy at août 22, 2003 06:20 PM

Although I am not a Muslim, I think in Muslim, we shall not talk bad about people, or about things we are not sure about, or something like 'fitnah'. But what I see here is distorted anger and contradicting your own faith. If she is that bad, some of that has burst out here is almost as bad as it is. What a shame.

"When you look into the abyss, the abyss looks into you too" - F.W. Nietzsche

Posted by: vlad at août 22, 2003 06:26 PM

STUPID ANDRISON!!!

Posted by: ganja at août 22, 2003 06:42 PM

"Dan sesungguhnya Allah telah pun menurunkan kepada kamu (Perintah-Nya) di dalam Kitab (al-Quran), iaitu: apabila kamu mendengar ayat-ayat keterangan Allah diingkari dan diejek-ejek (oleh kaum kafir dan munafiq), maka janganlah kamu duduk (bergaul) dengan mereka sehingga mereka masuk kepada memperkatakan soal yang lain; kerana sesungguhnya (jika kamu lakukan yang demikian), tentulah kamu sama seperti mereka. Sesungguhnya Allah akan menghimpunkan sekalian orang munafiq dan orang kafir di dalam neraka jahanam. (Surah an-Nisa': 140)

Mereka tidak percaya dan mempersenda-sendakan ayat Allah tetapi dalam masa yang sama mengaku sebagai orang Islam.Bahkan dipersenda-sendakan ayat Allah itu. Oleh itu jangan kamu duduk bersama dengan mereka sehinggalah mereka bercakap dalam percakapan yang lain. Sesungguhnya kalau begitulah keadaannya kamu bersama dengan mereka. Ayat ini menjelaskan bahawa Allah mengharamkan kita menghadirkan diri dalam majlis maksiat dan mempersenda-sendakan Islam. Termasuk dalam makna ayat ini ialah apa sahaja majlis maksiat, kufur dan munafiq. Jangan duduk di majlis itu, jika kamu duduk sekali maka kamu bersama dengan mereka dan mendapat saham maksiat sama dengan mereka kerana majlis seumpama itu adalah majlis yang dilaknat oleh Allah SWT kecuali kita mahu mencegah kemungkaran, itu lainlah masalahnya.Allah mengumpulkan munafiq dan golongan kafir di dalam neraka jahanam. Allah Ta'ala kumpulkan mereka dalam satu bakul (tempat). Oleh itu jangan kita berkumpul dalam bakulnya. Kalau duduk dalam bakul mereka, kita akan diarahkan turut mengangkat bakul itu.

wallahualam.

Posted by: maylissa at août 22, 2003 07:16 PM

a hypocrite, one whose external appearance is Islam (praying, fasting, "activism", etc.) but whose inner reality conceals kufr - often unbeknownst to the person themselves. (See Al-Baqarah: 8-23). A Munafiq is more dangerous and worse than a Kafir.

Posted by: maylissa at août 22, 2003 07:18 PM

bebudak elite nih semua tak senonoh!!!
Linda ambik gambar lucah ngan Edry
Watie plak dengar ada buat cerita blue, ngan dua laki
sasha plak???

apa nak jadik tak tau laaa...


Posted by: along at août 22, 2003 07:46 PM

whats up wit all this fuss? suke hati dierorang laa nak buat ape2...dah berani buat berani tanggung laa...tapi mmg tak patut...memalukan!!!hish hish...

Posted by: hazel.. at août 22, 2003 08:05 PM

Aku tak tau ar si shasha nih dah lupe die nih beragama islam or not. tapi sume org tau, kalo kite kawin dgn org berlainan agama, kite dpt pahala.tapi kalo kite tak dpt bimbing dieorg dgn btol, kite dah kire berdosa ritee?!so, sndrik mau paham+ingat

Posted by: ciklalat at août 22, 2003 10:10 PM

Ganjaaaaa~~~ganjaaaa~~~ko hisap ganjaaaaa kerrrrr~~~~??? tu yang buat awak terganja-ganja kerrr~~~~
anyway, skarang bukan Sasha yg memalukan kite semua sebagai Muslims...AWAK sendiri yg memalukan kite semua ngan diri awak sendiri!
STUPID GANJA!!!!

Posted by: Anti-dadah associations at août 22, 2003 11:33 PM

Why must we use foul language everytime we're irked by something? Why must we make someone feel like they're the scums of the earth? I'm not defending what Sasha's done but there is a line between humiliating and giving advice. And please, do not involve the rest of Elite's group members in this discussion. Anonymity doesn't give you power to do sesuka hati. All you need to do for this discussion to move forward is simple, THINK BEFORE YOU WRITE. Do not bash other race and religion in here, please. I cannot tolerate that.

Posted by: Freud at août 23, 2003 12:00 AM

... and MAY GOD BLESS YOU ganja

Posted by: andrison at août 23, 2003 12:28 AM

Kalau nak marah, marah parents dia dulu. Dah mak bapak dok diam tak tegur, apa guna jd mak bapak? Terutama bapak si shasha ni la, yg mak dia tu dah tau dah kafir masuk Islam.
Kenapa msti ikut cara Barat sdgkan cara Islam yg penuh dgn adat dan tradisi kan lagi best?
Tak payah mengaku org Islam la kalau mcm tu, buat je pengakuan yg dia nak jadi org kafir...awak tu artis, kalau yg bkn artis pun kita umat Islam digalakkan menegur kalau org bt salah, inikan pulak artis...mmg ramai org memerhati.
Ntahla, malas nak cakap psl artis2 ni, tak ada satu pun yg elok.

Posted by: hamba Allah at août 23, 2003 12:44 AM

Semua org kena faham. Apa yang kita bicara kan kat sini adalah isu sensitif. Bila kita ingin mengutarakan sesuatu, berfikirlah sebaiknya.

Saying something which is bad will not make us a good. Dont be too selfish in delivering ideas. All of this is what an INDIVIDUAL wants/desires. DO NOT BLAME THE RELIGIOUS for what an individual want to do. Sebab tu lah sekarang nie banyak sangat perpecahan dikalangan umat manusia kerana mulut badan binasa. Hanya kerana nila setitik, rosak susu sebelanga. Kita terlalu cepat melatah bila dijentik. Apa yang kita dapat?? Nothing but hatred and blood!

Bila sasha, buat benda yang menyalahi agama, tak payah lah kita nak kutuk dia, sebar gosip ke, sebar berita yg tak baik pasal dia kat seluruh dunia. Tidak kah perbuatan ini merupakan perbuatan yang keji jugak?? Manusia tak berhak mengadili kerana hak itu hanya Tuhan saja miliki. Saya tak nak ler nak sokong mana mana belah pihak, dan bagi saya jalan yang terbaik ialah - "kita berdoa agar org yang tersimpang dr jalan yang benar itu, terpancar cahaya di hati nya".

Tak payah ler kita nak gunakan ayat ayat suci dalam ruangan ini utk membuktikan yang kita ini benar. Tapi memang ada baik nya utk penghayatan semua. And again, its up to an individual to decide of where he/she is heading to.....

Kalau nak diikutkan, banyak lagi perkara yang lebih penting yang perlu kita fikirkan bersama utk kebaikan semua umat manusia di dunia....Apa yang kita perlu kan ialah "kewarasan berfikir" - dan fikirkan lah seadanya........

Posted by: Leo at août 23, 2003 12:59 AM

you go Leo...that was a decent way to intepret this whole matter.
why don't we all stand together no matter what religion you are in to keep world peace. tu lagik penting daripada sasha's punyer wedding.
lastly, i want to wish sasha and her newly wed hubby have a wonderful journey together.
what is past is past, what has been done is done.
Let's move on!!!

Posted by: capri at août 23, 2003 03:41 AM

i bet this is why ppl hav been looking down at malays from years to years and mayb in years to come coz they hardly associate with others well. what a shame...
and i've nothing to complain about sasha's wedding in the chapel. It's the house of God too....just like masjid where ppl go to worship God and do their prayers. Only God, the most merciful and the most forgiving, will know and understand.
good luck to you all and peace!

Posted by: Aloha at août 23, 2003 04:07 AM

assalamualaikum & salam sejahtera

firstly to ganja, stop writing such nonsense. kau dah bagi bad perseption pd non-muslim tentang cara sepatutnya org Islam berbicara.

mungkin benar dakwaan sstengah org, ada yg post ke sini bcoz just nk bz body. tp aku tgk sebahagian besarnya berniat utk menegur. so aku pon cube nk menegur je.

ditegaskan kat sini, NOT ALL MALAY IS MUSLIM. and of course CONVERT TO ISLAM DOESN'T MEAN BEING A MALAY.

Islam menyuruh penganutnya supaya saling ingat mengingati dan melihat umat Islam lain melakukan kesalahan atau ditindas tanpa melakukan apa2 adalah satu dosa. jika tak mampu, cukup dengan berdoa utk meminta pertolongan dari Allah.

aku post benda2 asas ni supaya yg kurang faham kenapa kita post macam2 teguran supaya cuba faham.

Posted by: fatiah at août 23, 2003 10:23 AM

aper nak jadik ngan org islam skrng
dunia nak dekat kiamat dah gak nyer...

pada saudara muslim ku sekelian
ishktigfarlah banyak banyak
semoga Allah swt mengampuni dosa dosa kita
dan muslimin serta muslimat sekelian
ambil ini sebagai ikhtibar
cubit peha kiri peha kanan terasa
wallahuallam

Posted by: skuterbaru at août 23, 2003 10:42 AM

aku sambung sket lagi...

syukur sbb sasha dah bawak sorang saudara baru. kalau dia pon masih Islam la(maaf ni sensitif sikit). tapi harap lepas ni jgn la buat benda2 yg boleh menyesatkan diri lagi. org Islam seluruh dunia (yg merasa tanggungjawab) tgh berusaha mengembalikan Islam yg syumul. walaupon sasha menganggap itu cuma "ceremony", tp cubalah rujuk kpd yg lebih arif ttg ape yg dah anda lakukan.

xsiapa boleh salahkan pendapat2 kat sini sbb sasha sendiri yg seolah2 mengundang kritikan dan teguran. mujur juga. kalau tidak, mungkin sasha dan keluarganya tak tahupon perkara ni salah dan boleh "membawa" kpd syirik.

semua mesti ingat, tak semua perkara boleh bergantung pada niat. kalau tak niat nak cerai, tp dah terlafaz, jatuh talak kan? KALAU TERLINTAS KAT FIKIRAN TAK PERCAYA KEPADA ALLAH, KITA KENA BERSYAHADAH KAN?

lagi satu, memang sasha ada life sendiri. ada hak nak buat ape dia suke (pendirian macam ni la yg bnyk merosakkan). tapi.... TAKKAN NAK TUNGGU APE YG DIA BUAT JADI BUDAYA BARU NAK TEGUR!!!!!!. masa tu dah terlambat dah.

semoga kita semua sentiasa dapat rahmat dan petunjuk dari Allah.

Posted by: fatiah at août 23, 2003 10:46 AM

assalamualaikum kawan-kawan...
dah la tu ingat ye..iman kite boleh rosak dan boleh terbatal syahadah kite dengan perbuatan,perkataan,pakaian dan cara hidup...contoh ramai org islam yg makan mee kekadang guna sepit..mm tu cara org kafir makan kan?? banyak lagi perkara yg kita rasa tak salah tetapi sebenarnya boleh merosakkan iman kite..dari itu dlm dunia yg serba mencabar ini..lebih baik kite memperbetulkan diri kita dan pastikan kita sentiasa mengamalkan ajaran islam sepenuhnya dan sunnah nabi..pasti org akan tertarik dengan cara hidup kita orang islam..dari situ akan terpancar keindahan islam yg tinggi..
insyallah

Posted by: hakim at août 23, 2003 11:06 AM

Saudara Hakim,
While I agree with some of your points, I dont think eating noodles with chopsticks will make a muslim less muslim :)

Posted by: Freud at août 23, 2003 11:43 AM

Leo, kita tak bole keep quite kalo sesama kawan islam kita (mcm sasha) buat salah, kita kena tegur and ingat meningat... doesn't mean dok kat oversea u can do what ever u want. u married to a mat salleh guy u can do what ever you want.. jangan buat malu org Islam laa.. apa dah jadik ngan umat nabi muhammad skarang??? ada sedara Islam buat silap, langsung tak peduli and menyokong lagi ada nya??? yang islam pula sesat & hanyut... dunia glamour celebrity & masing masing nak glamour (ada nama)... kita nasihat si sasha tu, kalo dia tak mau dengar itu hak dia.. at least kita dah terlepas dari dosa kita.. membiarkan benda benda macam nih berlaku.. nasihat cara baik, bukan dengan tutur kata yg tak sopan.. ok??
Leo or Leozarin, rasa mcm kenal jer u nih... u kawin ngan minah Philadelphia tuh kan, Nannie tuh kan???

Posted by: maylissa at août 23, 2003 01:40 PM

Assalamualaikum & Salam Harmoni,

Dear All, It seems that we have exhausted our thoughts on this and many people are becoming rude, vulgar and frankly very unpleasant.

Firstly, I would like to say thank you to the many level headed readers like Ash, Freud and many others who promote 'pleasant' intellectual discourse.

There is a comment prior to mine by a certain mr_carlos@yahoo.com and a couple others like zam, ganja who has nothing to say but profanities. Please, if you do not have anything to say, do not piss all over my website. I WILL erase all rude and profane comments. Although I will keep some as a reflection and just to show how 'good' some Malaysians can be.

It is not appreciated. I am overwhelmed if not somewhat shocked by the response that this harmless picture post had generated.

We will all learn something from this. Including myself.

All the various religious and moral spectrum I think has been, in all honesty and frankness, pointed out.

As such I now closing the comments for this particular post. If you have anything to say you may email me or visit my main blogsite (this is only the visuals section)and place your comments there.

Perhaps if there are valid comments I will post it here.

Thank you for reading.

Posted by: Sharizal Shaarani at août 23, 2003 05:36 PM

Sasha Saidin has issued statement at Bintang Popular.

Comments are now open again.

Below is the gist of the statement:


BEKAS penyanyi kumpulan Elite, Sasha Saidin menolak dakwaan majlis persandingannya dengan Johan Abdullah Skinner di Arkansas, Amerika Syarikat, April lalu berlangsung di sebuah gereja, sekali gus menafikan majlis berkenaan dibuat mengikut amalan penganut agama Kristian.

Sasha, 26, yang bernikah dengan Johan atau nama sebenarnya Jason Skinner, 30 pada 21 Jun lalu di Masjid Regent’s Park, London turut menyangkal dia menggunakan khidmat paderi, selain mengambil minuman keras sebagai tanda ucap selamat majlis perkahwinannya.

Perkara berkenaan menjadi bualan hangat penduduk tempatan selepas
menerima kiriman gambar e-mel yang menunjukkan suasana perkahwinan Sasha seolah-olah dibuat dalam sebuah gereja dan paderi berdiri di belakang dirinya dan Johan, selain memaparkan pasangan itu sedang bercium sambil tangan memegang gelas minuman keras.

Kebanyakan pengirim e-mel melahirkan rasa kesal kerana menganggap Sasha sudah lupa diri dan melakukan perkara yang boleh memesongkan akidah.

Pun begitu, Sasha yang ketika ini berada di Arkansas kerana menghabiskan cuti musim panas, ketika dihubungi penulis tengah hari Rabu lalu, mengakui gambar yang dikirimkan menerusi e-mel itu memaparkan majlis perkahwinan sivil dia dan Johan mengikut undang-undang negara berkenaan.

Bintang Popular difahamkan, menurut undang-undang negara itu, pasangan yang hendak bernikah/mendirikan rumah tangga perlu mendaftarkan perkahwinan mereka terlebih dulu bagi mendapatkan sijil perkahwinan sivil.

“Apabila kami dah dapat sijil tu, barulah boleh nikah. Justeru, saya menghadiri majlis persandingan sivil yang diatur secara tradisi oleh keluarga Johan. Sebenarnya majlis berkenaan hanya memerlukan kami menandatangani dokumen di Pejabat Pendaftar, tapi keluarga Johan
mengundang kira-kira 200 tetamu untuk meraikan kami.

“Kalau jemputan sudah ramai macam tu, takkan nak buat di pejabat? Akhirnya keluarga Johan memilih sebuah dewan yang terletak di tengah hutan. Dewan itu dikelilingi kaca sebab itu boleh nampak pemandangan pokok di luar. Justeru, ia sebuah dewan, bukan gereja!


BERGAMBAR kenangan bersama keluarga Johan selepas persandingan.
MAJLIS keraian yang diadakan di sebuah dewan dan bukan
di gereja seperti yang didakwa peminat.
“Shasha pula memilih gaun putih kerana ia pakaian tradisi. Kerusi panjang yang dikatakan kerusi gereja itu sebenarnya kerusi yang disediakan dewan berkenaan dan boleh dipindahkan ke tempat lain jika tidak diperlukan.

“Yang berdiri di belakang Shasha bukan paderi, sebaliknya bapa mentua Sasha, manakala di sisi Johan pula ialah salah seorang adik beradiknya. Sasha dan Johan pula berpandangan di atas pentas itu sambil membaca puisi, bertukar cincin dan bukannya melafazkan kalimah yang lazim disebut
pasangan pengantin Kristian.

“Selesai majlis, kami potong kek. Kami juga tak mengambil minuman keras seperti mana yang anda lihat dalam gambar berkenaan!” kata Sasha yang turut memberitahu bahawa gambar perkahwinan yang pada mulanya disimpan dalam komputer peribadi ibu mentuanya, tersebar selepas komputer berkenaan dijangkiti ‘virus spy bot’.

Shaha juga menolak sekeras-kerasnya dakwaan yang mengatakan dia dan Johan tinggal bersama kira-kira tiga bulan selepas majlis perkahwinan sivil mereka April lalu.

“Perkahwinan sivil hanyalah pendaftaran kahwin dan ketika itu kami belum bernikah lagi. Johan pula memeluk Islam pada 20 Jun di Dewan Malaysia, London dan ayah Sasha sendiri yang menjadi saksinya. Kami pula dinikahkan sehari selepas itu.

“Justeru, sebaik selesai majlis perkahwinan sivil, saya sambung belajar di United Kingdom (UK), manakala Johan bekerja di Amerika Syarikat,” kata Sasha yang dijangka mengadakan majlis perkahwinannya di Malaysia, akhir tahun ini dan sebelum itu dia akan menyambung pelajarannya September depan di University Ease, Anglia, United Kingdom (UK) dalam jurusan sistem informasi perniagaan.

Posted by: Sharizal Shaarani at août 25, 2003 05:29 PM

I think, Sasha nak kena give hadiah to all d pple yg fitnahkan dia..

all dis pple gave their amalan2 baik, pahala2 to Sasha for free..

now, who wouldn't want dat..? :)

Posted by: Sidqi at août 25, 2003 07:50 PM

y do at the church???!!!!

Posted by: ahlina at août 25, 2003 08:37 PM

For those who doesn't seem to understand the concept of domiciles and requirements of civil marriage, please read further the works of Mimi Kamariah Majid on the history of Malaysian Family Law (1992) in relation to the common law in England.

The issue of domicile arises because it is a concept that links an individual with a system/body of law (pg. 5). To put it in lay english, it means that your domicile will decide which set of laws will be applied to you, befitting your status. Domiciles and citizenship are two separate issues as the former is a sivil status while the latter is political.

I do not have hard evidence with me, but it would be logical to assume that Sasha and Johan got matrimonial domicile with the civil registration in US. This means that her marriage is protected (and recognized) under civil law in US. It is common practise to do so or else while she might perform the akad nikah in either country (US or London), there might not be any provisions for automatic recognition of the union in the US as in Malaysian laws. Considering that Johan is living and working in the United States, I would think a matrimonial domicile would be most befitting as it affects taxation status issues too.

I am sure she did inform the Malaysian embassy of her akad nikah in London so that her marriage is recognized here too. So, technically, they have multiple domiciles (which is perfectly fine).

I hope now Sasha's statement can clear the air and put the accusers to shame, not only because they have been wrong to incur such an unforgiving tone, but also because they have been quick to condemn, gossip and slander.

I stand by what I've said and I wish Sasha and Johan a great life ahead.

Posted by: chez1978 at août 26, 2003 11:48 AM

My previous post assumes Johan to be a non-American (I thot he is a Briton). If his domicile of origin is US, then it would actually be absolutely necessary for Sasha to take up a domicile of choice by registering for a civil marriage.

I quote from http://www.law.emory.edu/IFL/cases/USA.htm#part2

"Each state of the US requires a civil marriage license for every marriage created within its borders. Details on the specific requirements for these licenses vary from state to state, but they all generally require an official signature of the person performing the wedding, qualified by the state to do so, and those of witnesses to the ceremony."

Standard practise in common law to follow the domicile of the husband.

Posted by: chez1978 at août 26, 2003 11:57 AM

contrary to some ignorance in display, a civil marriage is NOT a christian marriage.

victim of the secular - non-secular divide?

Posted by: chez1978 at août 26, 2003 12:01 PM

I am sorry for this continuous posting but I am making a fast reply to HY.

As the wife, you have a Malaysian domicile by choice (of marriage). I hope you do know that. In whatever situation that arises from your marriage, Malaysian family law will be applied to yours. If you are a muslim, it will follow your state syariah.

When you say that your country of origin (America) recognizes your marriage, it merely recognizes the union under a foreign law (in this case Malaysia's) and it has no right to hear your case, should the need arises.

Posted by: chez1978 at août 26, 2003 12:11 PM

assalam'mualaikum slm sejahtera..

ada kawan hantar link ni.. bukan nak komen pasal shasha sgt, dia byk buat explaination, cuma empunya diri perlu ambik perhatian semua yg dilakukan & yg lain2 (terutama org islam) tak perlu kutuk/maki tapi kena islah.. menyatakan al-haq itu dengan penuh hikmah.. da'wah/islah bukan dengan mengherdik, bukan dengan menekan.. jadi kite kena muhasabah balik diri dan perkukuhkan ilmu dalam pada yang sama menyampaikan seupaya mungkin jalan yg benar ini..

alhamdulillah, harapnya rase prihatin yang diperlihatkan dalam tulisan2 ini ikhlas dari hati/jiwa yg ign melihat ad-Din ini dipelihara.. kalau ikhlas jgn caci/maki.. tegur dengan hikmah kalau ade perkara yg perlu diperbaiki..

namun, sedikit renungan (pendek je) utk diri sendiri dan kawan2 sekalian utk yg mengaku islam.. yang mengucap dua kalimah syahadah.. "ASYHADU AL LA ILAHA ILLALLAHU , WA ASYHADU ANNA MUHAMMADAR RASULULLAH".. pertama, kite yang mengaku diri kite islam ini perlu hati-hati bila mengungkap mengenai islam.. pastikan kite bercakap ade 'base'-nya.. ade ilmu.. kalau sekilo ilmu yg kita ada.. kita cakap sekilo sahaja.. jangan agak-agak/semberono.. jangan nak citer sekilo lima ratus gram.. cerita dlm lingkungan ilmu yg kita ada..

beberape contoh dalam komen2 diatas yg saya nak kongsi la sikit, yang saya rase ditulis oleh orang islam kot. pasal hati/niat/nawaitu.. seolah2 menyebut "takpelah.. asal nawaitu/niatnya baik".. boleh ke camtu? pernah tak kite dengar ungkapan "matlamat tidak menghalalkan cara"? dan tahukah kite ade 3 cara org yg kata dia MUSLIM ini boleh gugur imannya, aqidahnya.. iaitu.. 1.iktikad/hati 2.perbuatan/amalan 3.lisan/perkataan.. kalau ade salah satu cara shj pon sudah cukup/boleh merosakkan iman..

satu lagi pasal budaya vs agama.. kena ade ilmu, sebelum sebut kena belajar.. mana satu agama & mana satu tradisi kaum.. mana satu benda yg berhubung kait dengan agama.. sepit kebanyakkan chinese ni guna utk makan.. walaupon yg makan gune sepit di Malaysia ni org cina dan kebanyakkan mereka ni org bukan Islam, adekah automatik sape2 org islam makan gune sepit rosak imannya? ade kaitan ke sepit utk makan ni dengan penyembahan agama mereka.. upucara agama specifically.. adekah sepit (chopstik) ini menjadi simbol kpd agama mereka..? sbg contoh, yg kita pakai sudu/garfu ni? bukan tu matsaleh (yg bukan islam) yg asalnya pakai? kite kena tau sikit sejarah.. kat nagara cina tu ramai orang islam juga.. dia terima islam lebih awal dari tanah melayu terima islam (islam di cina dibawa oleh sahabat Nabi s.w.w iaitu Saad ibn Abi Waqqas ra.) .. adekah dorang (org cina)yg makan guna sepit dari dulu2 lagi rosak imannya di negara china sana?

akhirnya, marilah kite semua memantapkan ilmu islam ini agar kite tidak melencong.. dan dapat membantu org lain dalam mendapatkan syurga Allah swt dalam pada kite membantu diri sendiri.. dan utk org melayu (termasok saya) jangan lah kite mengambil islam ini org kata 'take for granted' shj (sbb lahir dr keturunan yg beragama islam, jdlah kita islam).. tp 'gigit'lah islam ini sekuat-kuatnya.. kajilah islam tuntutlah ilmu, kite akan rase keindahannya.. manisnya iman yg dikecapi ini..

mintak maaf sgt kalau ade dari tulisan ini yg tak disukai.. kelemahan itu dari saya.. kebaikan/kebenaran itu dari Allah..

wallahua'lam..

Posted by: empat at août 26, 2003 01:05 PM

hadith sohih,,
man raa minkum munkaran falyughayir biyadih,
fainllam yastati' fabilisaanih,
fainllam yastati' fabiqalbihi,
fainnahu hua adafull imannn...aw kama call.

Posted by: akhi fil islam at août 26, 2003 01:55 PM

Shasha and husband,
Congratulations on your wedding. May Allah bless you both. Do not worry about what other people said. Be happy and respect your husband and his family. I had similar experinced, did my marriage license first before the nikah in front of "tok kadi".Believe me, it was worth it. My advise is do not leave prayer and stay away from alcohol. You will find precious moments when you discovering each other differences and make the marriage work.
Take care.
Zue Murphy, PA

Posted by: Zue Murphy at août 27, 2003 05:40 AM

I don't really care what sasha does with her personal life, but making a false statement about the wedding chapel being a "dewan" is truly annoying. Why the need to lie? Malaysian public are not stupid.

http://www.thorncrown.com/photogallery/thorn.htm

Furhermore, as a malaysian married to an American, the only requirement for a civil marriage is registering one's marriage at a courthouse and not a Christian ceremony. As someone posted, Sasha might be confuse as to what is Civil and what is a Christian marriage. I too have exchange rings and read poems at my American wedding but I choose a neutral location, not a chapel.

Thus, this statement by Sasha "..mengakui gambar yang dikirimkan menerusi e-mel itu memaparkan majlis perkahwinan sivil dia dan Johan mengikut undang-undang negara berkenaan" is not true.

Seems to me like she is trying to cover uph her own mistakes...


Posted by: Malia at août 27, 2003 08:29 AM

BIARLAH...ASALKAN DIA BAHAGIER DAN DIER TAU APER DIER BUAT...DOSA DAN PAHALA DITENTUKAN TUHAN....KITA MANUSIA SAMA MENGINGATKAN ITU SAJER DAN TERPULANG PADA INDIVIDU ITU SENDIRI MENILAI SAMA ADA BAIK ATAU BURUK....

Posted by: LISA at août 27, 2003 09:28 AM

first. people might get confused which is adat n which is religous. think of it again. wat she did is adat or religous. that's the important matters.

second. MALAY is not equal to ISLAM. Islam is just a religous that being followed and trusted by various races in world. open ur eyes, explore the world n u'll noticed the fact.

third. people do make mistakes. regardless which followers he is. it is just, nobody is perfect. too excited to get married made her forget wat is rite n wrong. just step back n think again. one thing, u're a celebrity back here in Malaysia. so, whatever u do is such a big fuss especially the wrong one. it is just people habit. whatever excuses u came up is pointless actually. the important point is, between u and Allah. We as Muslim sisters and brothers only could remind u.

Posted by: jay at août 27, 2003 07:56 PM

Assalamualaikum
Relaks brader & sistah...buat bertenang semua. Mana budi bahasa kita orang Melayu...biar bersopan-satun sikit walaupun melalui cyber.

Firstly, Sasha & Johan...congratulations on your marriage. Semoga mahligai yang you bina bersama bahagia hingga ke anakcucu. Semoga Allah swt pelihara kamu berdua dengan keimanan. Alhamdulillah & welcome, bro. Johan as our new brother. Singgah lah kerumah semasa bercuti di Arkansas ni.

Soal jodoh pertemuan "matsalleh" ker, Melayu ker, orang berkolor ker...semua nya ditakdirkan Allah swt. Kita semua nya insan biasa...
Seperti Sasha, kita orang jugak bernikah & did our civil ceremony in Eureka Springs. They both were beautiful. Suami I orang Arkansas takde lah ulu as one may think.
The people of Eureka Springs, AR should thank y'all for this free promotions on their city. As we say, "Welcome, y'all"! Sekarang this city dah terkenal seh...:))

Posted by: zjo at août 28, 2003 03:07 AM

I'm kinda glad that fellow Muslims come to realise the importance of being a "good neighbor". But.... have we done enough?
Enough by just vomiting our concern now & then just fade away into oblivion later?

Posted by: ajemang at août 29, 2003 11:00 AM

Iye? Dia org dah kawen? Syukurr... biar bahagia sehingga ke anak cucu. May they find their way.

Uih.. ppl.. jgn emosi... aku duduk kat obersi gak... tapi masih ingat kat agama... iskkk...

Posted by: eirinna at août 29, 2003 07:54 PM

alaa korang nie...buat apa nak bertekak??? ini dunia dia..biarlah dia ngan dunia dia...dia islam ker tak...nauzubillah...biar dia yang jawab di akhirat nanti...

nielah artist....skg nie semua tak betul...GILA....KAWIN PUN NAK BUAT KECOH....ALLAH SAJA TAHU APA YANG BERLAKU...KALAU SASHA BETUL KAWIN KAT GEREJE KER CHAPEL KER...GASAK DIA....BIAR DIA MATI DALAM SESAT..NIE SEMUA TAK TAHU BERSYUKUR....KEPADA YANG LAINNYA...JGAN IKUT MACAM SHASHA....INGAT..ALLAH TU MAHA KAYA..TIADA YANG BOLEH MENOLONG KITA SELAINNYA

Posted by: guest at août 29, 2003 08:46 PM

alaa korang nie...buat apa nak bertekak??? ini dunia dia..biarlah dia ngan dunia dia...dia islam ker tak...nauzubillah...biar dia yang jawab di akhirat nanti...

nielah artist....skg nie semua tak betul...GILA....KAWIN PUN NAK BUAT KECOH....ALLAH SAJA TAHU APA YANG BERLAKU...KALAU SASHA BETUL KAWIN KAT GEREJE KER CHAPEL KER...GASAK DIA....BIAR DIA MATI DALAM SESAT..NIE SEMUA TAK TAHU BERSYUKUR....KEPADA YANG LAINNYA...JGAN IKUT MACAM SHASHA....INGAT..ALLAH TU MAHA KAYA..TIADA YANG BOLEH MENOLONG KITA SELAINNYA

Posted by: guest at août 29, 2003 08:46 PM

untuk sasha tersayang,

yang 'DEWAN' tu bukannya dewan sayang ooi....
terang-terangan ia adalah gereja ... siap ada salib lagi terpampang kat website nyer....
please don't any false statements... bukan u sorang aje yang belajo kat luor negeri... kawin mat saleh...

Posted by: me,myself & I at août 30, 2003 12:59 PM

kalau dah kawin kat gereja tu, takyahlah masuk islam..kawin aje...kan abis citer...tak yah mengotorkan kalimah dua kali masyahadah tu..... lebih dosa

Posted by: xyz at août 31, 2003 11:36 AM

well .. looky here .. i dunt think u should do tat shasha .. maybe u nak tunjuk yg u kawin kat LOndon n sorokkan the one yg u kawin kat chapel .. like u said in the email .. thanks to the person that get thru ur comp .. itu tunjukkan Allah tu maha kuasa .. sekejap je gambar u kawin kat chapel tuhs tersebar .. coz u nak sorok tat pic .. n menduekan Allah .. xde baiknyer .. contoh yg kite ade wan nor azlin .. walaupun bende dah lame .. tp skrg dah tersebar .. siapa malu? family die jugak .. maybe ur family dunt mind this kinda thingy .. but as a Muslim .. i cukup malu with u .. u have the look .. n quite popular before among malaysian .. n u do this .. well .. mcm org ckap .. ikut suke atie die la nak buat ape .. thats true .. damn true .. but remember this .. ikut suke hati Allah jugak la balasan pada u shasha .. if u really love ur religion, sebaik-baiknye u bertaubat n mengucap .. tinggalkan everythin yg x baik .. n berdoa supaya Allah ampunkan everything ..

Posted by: w4n13 at août 31, 2003 04:36 PM


Assalamualaikum,
Got this article from Bintang Popular
Advice from Hassan Mahmud Al-Hafiz Pengarah Institut Al-Furqan & ex-host for rancangan Al-Kulliyyah TV3

Kahwin di gereja tidak sejajar adat sopan Islam
Oleh Akmal Abdullah 31 August 2003


SEORANG Muslim yang berkahwin seharusnya mengikut adab dan budaya Islam supaya perkahwinan itu diberkati Allah dan memberi kesan baik untuk jangka panjang. Bukan saja soal syarat sah nikah yang harus dipatuhi sebaliknya majlis keraian atau jamuan juga harus dibuat di tempat yang mulia dan bersopan dari sudut pandangan Islam.

Penceramah bebas, Hassan Mahmud Al-Hafiz, berkata perkahwinan adalah bab agama yang harus dilaksanakan mengikut kehendak agama, begitu juga Islam yang menyarankan umatnya supaya mengikut ajaran dan peraturan yang ditetapkan.

“Kalau hendak berkahwin, hendaklah ikut cara Islam. Biarpun kita
kahwin dengan mualaf, ia harus dibuat mengikut Islam. Kalau bersanding atau buat majlis sanding dalam gereja, itu sudah lari dari syariatnya. Budaya Islam itu harus bersama.

“Walaupun untuk bersanding, jika memilih tempat begitu (gereja), ada kesan tidak baik dari segi barakah atau keberkatannya. Sebab itu Islam menyarankan majlis akad nikah dan perkahwinan di buat di masjid atau surau atau di tempat yang lebih sopan.

“Dalam hal kahwin, ia bukan saja akad nikah tetapi tempat juga diambil kira, siapa pengunjung yang datang dan hal lain lagi. Jika memilih tempat seperti gereja, itu lari daripada syariat dan budaya Islam. Jika syarat akad nikah sudah dipatuhi, perkahwinan itu sah tetapi kalau di gereja untuk bersanding, itu tidak molek.

“Samalah kita di Malaysia, jika ada umat Islam yang kahwin dalam kuil, tentu tidak ada adab Islam. Ia sama juga kita makan di tempat yang haram. Islam bukan hanya persoalan sah tetapi merangkumi adab sopan. Dalam hal ini, jika ada kejadian yang berlaku, ia soal kejahilan agama.

“Dari awal perkahwinan kita sudah tidak dapat pertahan adab sopan agama, macam mana untuk meneruskan kehidupan Islam pada masa akan datang, apatah lagi soal solat dan bila sudah ada anak. Ia akan timbul keraguan.

“Bersanding dalam gereja atau seumpamanya akan menimbulkan fitnah dan salah sangka masyarakat. Ia harus dielakkan,” katanya ketika dihubungi.

Hassan yang juga Pengarah Institut Al-Furqan dan pernah menjadi pengacara rancangan Al-Kulliyyah di TV3 berkata, walaupun berkahwin di negara Barat, tentu ada tempat yang lebih baik dan bersopan untuk meraikan perkahwinan termasuk masjid yang juga wujud di sana.

“Soalnya kenapa seorang Islam memilih gereja sedangkan dia ada tempat lebih baik untuk meraikan perkahwinannya?” kata Hassan.

Allah Yibarek Fik
W'salam

Posted by: D'reayna Najyme-T'yresh at août 31, 2003 08:11 PM

Salam to u all on this forum,

Its a pleasure to get to comment on this wedding that is making waves at Malaysia. I am not surprised at all about all the comments regarding this wedding, its a normal thing to happen in a country where Muslims are majority.

However, I believe Shasha has a moral responsibility to clarify her 'chapel' wedding at the US to the Malaysian public. Shasha was a public figure in this country, she earned praises and money from the Malaysians, thus as a true artist she has to make a statement on her real status after this wedding and on the 'chapel' pictures. Do not hide anything because the truth is funny at times. When people look for the truth, they will find it!

Any way, I doa that if the man has actually converted to Islam before marrying Shasha, then their marriage by Allah will be a success.

Shasha has to put an end to the rumors that is flying around in Kuala Lumpur on her faith. Its a Muslim duty of hers to do so.

Thanks for your reading, take good care and may Allah Bless you all.

Salam

Posted by: zaki at août 31, 2003 08:36 PM

Saya sebagai Muslim berasa sedih apabila membaca Bintang Popular pada hari ini. Di harapkan para remaja Islam tidak akan meniru perbuatan yang tidak bermoral ini. Kalau betul Sasha yang melakukannya tak perlulah sorok-sorok. kini segalanya sudah terang dan nyata. Sasha paatut berasa malu dan bertaubat. perbuatan kamu bukan sahaja memalukaan agama tetapi bangsa Malaysia.kita adalah bangsa yang bermaruah, kenapa nak ikut adat orang barat yang terang-terangan menyesatkan. Di mana letaknya maruah kita?, kenapa mesti ikut telunjuk kafir laknat? Allah beri kita akal, maka BERFIKIRLAH. Sesungguhnya siksaan diakhirat itu amat PEDIH!!

Posted by: mas at septembre 1, 2003 12:36 AM

i had my akad nikah in malaysia berwalikan my father and we've just submit our surat nikah to the embassy and no questions asked whether we want to do any civil marriage in the country where i'm living now. it's such a pity when this happened to our own celebrity.

Posted by: Nightwish at septembre 1, 2003 02:00 AM

aiya,nie apasal lak masuk kisah chopstik lak nie...cam sapa cakap tadik makan guna chopstik tu budaya bukan nya ada kena mengena dgn agama(itu yang sebetulnya)....kalau ia pun nak bagi komen pakai chopstik tue haram tgk2 ler skit yang kita pakai sudu garpu ..apake bendenya ...haram ke idak?heheeheh tidak kan..so buat contoh biar lah kena skit jgn menyebabkan org lain salah faham lak kay.....biar ada ilmu didada......kaum hui kat china yang beragama islam pun pakai chopstik nak makan tau...palah korang nie...nak bagi contoh pun...jgn bagi org lain terasa lak .kisah shasha 2 kalu betul dia buat cam tu...x betul sesangat lah tue...kalau sekarang dia dah insaf sekarang....Alhamdulillah...sp ppl jgn ler melampau sangat dalam berkata-kata tue..berlapis lah skit jgn ikut sedap mulut jer..kan tak pepasal org yg bercakap 2 dapat dosa lebih kan naya...buat sasha kalau sedari dah sedar dgn apa yang sedari dah buat.....baguslah..

Posted by: mie_xiaojie at septembre 1, 2003 02:17 AM

SASHA..
it's true that if u kawen with US citizen, u kena conduct civil marriage..but won't it be ok just to do it in a different location rather than the chapel...i don't understand where you got that NICE civil marrage LOCATION idea of urs from. A relative of mine married an american guy..like you there was the akad nikah held in front of the kadi and there was also a small ceremony on the guy's side...but they held the function at a nearby park..and they also exchanged their marriage vows infront of their relatives and friends just like you did. cuma they tak create controversy like you. Even RUHIL AMANI who married the Aussie guy had a wedding reception by the sea..not at any chapel...THINK ABT IT and jgn dok BESAR KEPALA..

Posted by: nerina at septembre 1, 2003 02:54 AM

assalamualaikum...
Pada pendapat saya semua org dah ingat shasha buat kesalahan... so biarlah dia tanggung segala dosa dia, persoalannya sekarang kenapa dia membuat kenyataan palsu yang mengatakan chapel tu dewan? apa dia ingat org malaysia nih bodoh sangat ke? tak pernah pegi blajaq kat obersi dan tak tau nak berinternet? dengan kenyataan yg macam tu kita semua dah tau tahap mana si shasha nih. so shasha jaga family u baik2 jgn sampai 2, 3 bulan lepas tu dok dengaq rumahtangga dah retak. Kahwin bagai nak rak gitu...

Posted by: popular ke? at septembre 1, 2003 04:16 PM

DEWAN????? tu bukan stadium paroi ke. hahahaha. Minah ni menipu pulak dah. jangan tunjuk sangat kau tu bodoh, malu...cover sikit. kau belajar aper kat uk tu sasha. tak yah ahhh...buang duit yuran jer, dewan ngan chapel pun kau tak tahu beza.

TO ALL MALAYSIAN, MERDEKA!!!!

ganja: kali ni bahasa aku sopan

Posted by: ganja at septembre 1, 2003 06:57 PM

oi sahsha kau nih bangang bonar la dahla kahwin ngan omputih lepas tuh buat kat gereja lak tu apa nak jadi..mak bapak tak ajar ker

Posted by: mamat at septembre 1, 2003 09:58 PM

seluruh umat islam di malaysia gempar pasal Shasha
kawin kat gereja yg ini menimbulkan perasaan kecewa serta terang-terang mempersendakan agama islam khususnya rakyat kita sendiri alpa dan kurang didikan agama islam menyebabkan puncanya berlaku sejak akhir zaman ini. Mari lah sama sama kita berdoa supaya mereka insaf dan bertaubat apa yg. telah mereka lakukan terhadap kedua ibubapa mereka..

Posted by: zakerismail at septembre 1, 2003 11:24 PM

a'kum pple.
uhmm..i am not saying what sasha did was right , but then again, she is afterall just an ordinary human being,albeit a celebrity,who not only has the right to make mistakes but also the right to do what she wants with her life!

Posted by: La Nina at septembre 2, 2003 04:37 AM

yg dah lepas lepaslah...kita kena ambik iktibar dari semua yg berlaku ni..buat shasha dan husband semuga bertaubat dan menjalani kehidupan sebagai muslim..kita yg dok mengata ni pun tak kemana..doakanlah mereka sebab mungkin masa tu mereka pun tak tahu..
wassalam

Posted by: ina at septembre 2, 2003 09:36 AM

WOI KORANG DOH KECOH2 NI KENAPA. YANG SEBENARNYA KOME DAH TGK GAMBAR TU TAPI TAK JELAS SO TAK DAPAT BUAT KESIMPULAN. BOLEH TAK SAPA2 YANG ADA GAMBAR YANG LEBIH JELAS E-MAILKAN KAT KITE. TOLONG LA

Posted by: cd at septembre 2, 2003 11:36 AM

SORRY LUPA NAK BAGITAU E-MAIL. cdpas14@yahoo.co.uk

Posted by: CD at septembre 2, 2003 11:38 AM

typical busybody malaysians and the asian mentality showing YET AGAIN. or shall i say the melayu mentality. currently working in the UK, i find most of the time,only the malaysian muslims are so picky. grow up and mind ur own business. dont try and mend whats not broken. at the end of the day, what a person does is between themselves and Allah. u are not Allah to judge, so dont play Allah.By bitching like this, you are sinning far more than sasha. i know what society pressure can do. so all the best sasha with your man and i will be delighted to be married ! and of course, spending loads of time in the States. Cheers

Posted by: somegirl at septembre 2, 2003 12:21 PM

KAMI BUKAN NAK BUSY BODY....TAPI BUKANKAH SALING INGAT MENGINGATI TU DITUNTUT DALAM AGAMA?...KAMI TAKNAK DIANGGAP BERSUBAHAT DALAM KEMUNGKARAN. WALAU APA PON SEMOGA SASHA AKAN LEBIH BERINGAT-INGAT DAN BERWASPADA LAGI PADA MASA DEPAN. YANG BURUK KITA JADIKAN SEPADAN.KEPADA ARTIS-ARTIS LAIN TU PLAK, BERINGAT-INGATLAH. APA YANG SASHA BUAT NIE KITA SUME BOLEH NAMPAK, TAPI SENARIO YANG SEBENARNYA JAUH LEBIH PARAH DALAM MASYARAKAT KITA NIE. SIKAP BERDIAM DIRI BUKANLAH LANGKAH TERBAIK. MARILAH KITA SAMA-SAMA AMAL MAKRUF NAHI MUNGKAR!

Posted by: pirates of carribean at septembre 2, 2003 01:03 PM

ASSALAMMULALAIKUM...
BANGGA SAYA MEMBACA SEBEGITU BANYAK KOMEN DAN PENDAPAT DARI SEDARA SEDARI YANG BERAGAMA ISLAM...
KERANA DARI SITU MENUNJUKKAN YANG ANDA SEMUA MASIH PRIHATIN DAN MENYAYANGI AGAMA DAN BANGSA SENDIRI...SUNGGUH ADA YANG KERAS...TAPI MAKLUM...MANUSIA ADA PELBAGAI CARA...UNTUK MELUAHKAN APA YANG DIRASA...
APA YANG BERLALU...BIAR SASHA YANG JWB KAT TUHAN ESOK..WALAU APA PON ALASAN YANG DIBERIKAN...
KEPADA YANG MASIH TEGUH PADA ADAB DAN AKIDAH ISLAM..JAGA LAH DIRI ANDA WALAU DIMANA JUA ANDA BERADA...SERTA KELUARGA...

Posted by: yah_airiyah at septembre 2, 2003 01:16 PM

Assalamualaikum and Good Day,
Hmm, guess the end of this issue is still beyond the horizon.
Sasha should make a public announcement or sort, apologizing for her false and misleading statement regarding the chapel being a hall, and repentance for her ignorance.
I wish you the best, and welcome Johan as a new brother. Embrace Islam totally.
May Allah the AlMighty guide us all to the right path and bless us all the way. Amin

Posted by: Zull at septembre 2, 2003 08:52 PM

Assalammualaikum...

Sasha... kenapa buat statement palsu.. we are not that stupid if you notice that is not a church. Kita bukan tak boleh find from internet.. Dan dah terbukti, it was Eureka Springs Throncrown Chapel!!! Kenapa nak cakap itu dewan dan bukan gereja!!! Tak baik tipu peminat!!!! NAUZUBILLAH!!!

Posted by: NITA at septembre 3, 2003 12:05 PM

hehehe,sasha dah gabra je macam.takkan tak leh tak ikut adat diorg..takkan pegang arak tapi tak minum.hehe,kantoi lak je macam..Ish,mulut ako nih!kalo betul sume nih macam kena bertaubat, sesungguhnya ALLAH itu maha mengasihani kalo salah bior kan mereka sesungguhnya ALLAH maha mengetahui.erm,tu la iman senipis debu nak bawa org lain masuk islam...skrg kan ke kita lak cam ikut dia.ish,mulut ako nih...

Posted by: Sarah_Best at septembre 3, 2003 09:17 PM

blah lah kau sasha!!!! kat malaysia pun kau pakai baju tutup buah dada kau yg kecut tu je......mana adap berpakaian kau...nak tanya lepas kawin kat church tu kau stay 2gether ke?kalau tak, sure kekawn kau mat salih kafir tu quirykan?sure puas kau berzina!!!! tanggung le dosa sendiri,sbg org islam kita ingat mengigati tu perlu,taubat le,patut yusry tak nak kat kau

Posted by: wak carlos alberto at septembre 4, 2003 01:15 AM

blah lah kau sasha!!!! kat malaysia pun kau pakai baju tutup buah dada kau yg kecut tu je......mana adap berpakaian kau...nak tanya lepas kawin kat church tu kau stay 2gether ke?kalau tak, sure kekawn kau mat salih kafir tu quirykan?sure puas kau berzina!!!! tanggung le dosa sendiri,sbg org islam kita ingat mengigati tu perlu,taubat le,patut yusry tak nak kat kau

Posted by: wak carlos alberto at septembre 4, 2003 01:22 AM

jalannnnn daaaahhhhhhhh semua....tak baik mengata orang,nanti kena kat batang hidung sendiri baru tau............................hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah G2hellllllllllllllll.

Posted by: Pablo de Escobar at septembre 4, 2003 12:13 PM

Kenapalah bapaknya sasha tidak melarang anaknya sehingga hanya mendiamkan diri. Agaknya pak cik saidin ni dulupun kawin macam tu juga..bapa borek anaknya rintiklah. Sasha ni pula sebenarnya tak laku dan kurang publisiti so dia ambil kesempatan jadi terkenal...lihat aje sekarang ni..tak habis-habis cerita dia kawin kat CHAPEL tu...Apa salahnya kawin aje kat Malaysia..apa ingat kau tu cantikah? nama aje anak kacukan..langsung tak ada rupa lawa lagi Si Maya Karin..
Bertaubatlah Sasha dan kepada Saidin didiklah anak tu supaya menjadi umat yang baik dan patuh pada ajaran ISLAM..semoga abang sasha tidak akan mengikut jejak si sasha yang hanya inginkan publisiti semata-mata...BERTAUBATLAH DAN UCAPLAH DUA KALIMAH SAHADAH..AMIN

Posted by: amoilah at septembre 4, 2003 10:57 PM

pardon my ignorance dear friends but could i ask why is there some of us who think that there is a jewish or christian conspiracy to bring down muslims and implying that to this marriage? Could i also ask why the deep hatred for jews...as far as i know some of the prophets were also jews...do we not hate the regime that is/ were in place rather than a whole race of people? Am i also wrong that within islamic practices, you could eat in a jewish person's house as it it kosher and u could sleep in a christian's house..heard it when i was a kid...am not sure....any clarification would be greatly appreciated.

Posted by: Lost in Malaysia at septembre 6, 2003 12:05 PM

Askm...mengucap byk 2,di sini saya nak ingatkan klu nak tipu tu agak2lah.saya baru lihat website Thorncrown yg dikatakan dewan???di dindingnya yg dikatakan dewan tu tertera lambang salib yg berbentuk lampu.Itu tempat org mat salih kawin oi....sasha sebagai org islam tdk sepatutnya berbuat demikian.Tak perlu mengikut kehendak keluarga suami utk menjaga hati mereka.Jika dia dah masuk islam sepatutnya mengikut cara islam,keluarga johan sepatutnya memahaminya dari awal sebelum anaknya memasuki agama islam dan sasha patut menerangkanya.apa yg boleh dan tak boleh dan menolaknya dgn cara baik.takkan itu dikatakan biadab.sasha sepatutnya berbincang lebih awal dgn ibubapa sblm membuat sesuatu perkara dan merujuk pd org yg arif pasal hukum hakam ni.nie tak? pakai belasah je...ingat awak tu apa..fikir sblm buat..lagi pun awak tu artis apa yg di buat jadi tontonan.Entahlah....sendiri mau ingatlah ye..

Posted by: Maslina at septembre 8, 2003 02:55 PM

assalamualaikum....
shasha....shasha....
papehalpon benda nie is already happen...tak taula macammaner lagi nak komen....banyak dah komen yang aku nak sebut korang dah sebut....pasal agama ni tak boleh dibawa main...islam tue bukan semata-mata mengucap dua kalimah shahadah jer...mengucap tu adalah pengakuan dari zahir...maksud islam tue sendiri pon berserah diri yang membawa makna keseluruhan diri dan perlakuan, perbuatan kita nie mesti berdasarkan keredhaan allah.....perkara yg shasha dah buat nie dah mendatangkan macam-macam anggapan dan sekaligus datangkan fitnah tautak...kita patutnya cuba elakkan perkara shubhah nie...kita pon tak taula benda nie halal ker haram ker baik ker tak baik ker dari sisi allah tapi yang pastinya perkara nie is clearly sensitive....

ingat shasha....walaupon perkara nie shasha yang buat tapi bukan bermakna dosa (kalau dosalakan) tue shasha sorang jer yang tanggung tau...allah turunkan bala bukan semata-mata pada sorang individu sahaja tau...orang-orang yang disekelilingnya dapat tempias nyer jugak....misalnyer orang yang minum arak...bukan minum jer yang haram...orang yang bawak,buat,jual,tolong beli,tolong jual,dan yg ader kaitan pon haram jugak......

bercakap dalam soal agama...shasha seolah-olah dah menjatuhkan maruah agama islam tue sendiri...dah menunjukkan bahawa kita dah kalah pada agama yang tak benar...menunjukkan bahawa kita nie bergantung pada agama lain nak survive...sampai nak kahwin pon kat tempat yang berkaitan dengan agama (gereja). bukannya darurat...kalau darurat tue lainla ceritanya..ini banyak lagi tempat lain...

kembalilah pada alquran dan assunnah....bertaubat...INGAT SEMUA...BUKAN SENANG NAK DAPAT KEMAAFAN DENGAN HANYA MENGUCAP..TAUBAT TUE PENTING...BUKAN SENANG2 KALAU DAH LANGGAR HUKUM ATAU MURTAD..NAK MASUK ISLAM BALIK HANYA DENGAN MENGUCAP..NIE BUKA MAIN2..SESEORANG TUE KENER BERTAUBAT...KALAU NAK DIIKUTKAN HUKUM ISLAM KALAU MURTAD PATUTNYA HUKUMNYA 'BUNUH!'.ingat shasha...ko pegang nama dan maruah agama di mata masyarakat...kau tue artis..so..bagilah contoh yang baik.

Posted by: alhoir din at septembre 9, 2003 02:43 AM

SASHA....KAK NAK KOMEN LA....LAMA DAH BACA KOMPLEN2 ORG NI,MEMANG RAMAI YANG BENGANG,MARAH DAN LUAHAN TU MEMACAM...SEBAB MEREKA BENAR2 TAHU MANA BETUL KE TIDAK WALAUPUN KITA TAK TAHU SAPA DIA.KENAPA KITA MESTI IKUT CARA DIA KAHWIN?MENGHORMATI KAUM KELUARGA DIA?....ADAKAH KERANA U SENDIRI ANAK KACUKAN...SO BOLEH MASUK MANA U FIKIR OK....TOLONG AMBIL BERAT TEGURAN ORANG TU...YANG MANA KATA 'BIARLAH...IKUT SUKA HATI U..' TU ORANG YANG TAK BERPENDIRIAN DAN TAK TAHU TANGGUNGJAWABNYA DAN TAK AMBIL TAHU HAL2 KELILING MELAINKAN DAH MENYUSAHKAN DIA BARU DIA TERKIAL-KIAL..KALAU DIA MATI...BIAR TANAM SENDIRI.SBB U CELEBRITI THEN U KENA TAMPARAN NI......???????WALAUPUN TAK CELEBRITI,KALAU KITA TAHU KITA WAJIB TEGUR...KITA NI SELAIN MENJADI ORANG HIDUP,MAKAN,PAKAI,TIDUR..KITA JUGA ADALAH KHALIFAH DI MUKA BUMI ALLAH YG BERTANGGUNGJAWAB UNTUK MENJALANKAN TANGGUNGJAWAB KITA......JGN SAMPAI ESOK TAK TAHU MENGUCAP,BACA KALIMAHSAHADAH...BILA JIBRIL DAH DEPAN MATA...MASA TU YG TINGGAL HANYA PENDENGARAN SAJA...INGAT..SAAT2 KITA SESAK NAFAS...SEPARUH SEDAR KADANG2 DIDATANGI LELAKI JUBAH HITAM TUTUP KEPALA,JANGAN FIKIR ITU MALAIKAT...ITU SYAITAN YG CUBA MENYESATKAN KITA.....NYAWA KITA HANYA TUHAN YG BERHAK MENGAMBIL....SYAITAN TU PUN TAK TAHU BILA KITA AKAN MATI....DIA AKAN CUBA MENYESATKAN KITA SETIAP MASA....INIKAN KAN PULA ...SAJA2 IKUT CARA ORANG KAFIR....LAGILAH DI ALU-ALUKAN OLEH SYAITAN NERAKA JAHANAM...........

Posted by: KAK LYN at septembre 10, 2003 12:07 AM

http://www.emedia.com.my/Entertainment/BiPop/Cerita/20030905173502/index_html

Posted by: Najwa Nasseri at septembre 11, 2003 05:56 PM

ops..one more..

http://www.bharian.com.my/m/BHarian/Monday/Hiburan/20030908063150/Article/

Posted by: Najwa Nasseri at septembre 11, 2003 06:02 PM

people out there.....dalam dunia ni...apa jua yang kita buat...it will reflect to us...buat baik ke jahat ke...ada yang menilainya...tu sbb ada syurga neraka....kita tak perlulah nak maki2 sesiapa...sekadar menegur dengan cara yang sepatutnya....

SELEMAH2 IMAN ADALAH BILA MEMBENCI SESUATU DENGAN HATINYA.....
ALLAH MELIHAT SEGALA2NYA..takder satu pon miss..malaikat ada dua kiri kanan tuh..tulis jer everything kita buat.....bila kita dah 6 fts underground..takder peluang dah nak sesal..masa2 yang ada kat dunia ni jer la...kalau nak bertaubat lerrrrrrrrr.......

-aku pon bukan bagus mana...cuma sekadar ingat mengingati sebelum K.O-

Posted by: are dee at septembre 12, 2003 01:29 PM

God bless you Sasha..Don't bother what other people says about your marriage and for all you guys out there...just leave her alone...she do what is right for her and that's her own privacy..

Posted by: LeezaLorena at septembre 13, 2003 12:17 AM

assalamualaikum,
i hope u'll happy with ur new life.

Posted by: YATI at septembre 13, 2003 11:41 PM

hi, ramai kawan saya kawin di overseas. civil marriage tu tak payah buat dekat dalam chapel. hanya perlu sign forms saje..

sha, jgn la jadik ignorant.. bukan semorang bodoh.. kalau nak tipu satu dunia kena ada concrete reason tau!

Posted by: hmm at septembre 14, 2003 01:36 PM

Assalammualaikum,
Tak tahula saudara seagama ni sedar ke tak...yang dok asyik kutuk sasha tu.....mengucaplah.....indeed she has made mistakes...so let's pray that she and ourself dont do anymore mistakes(like mengutuk dan mencaci)..the damage has been done.and by now, I'm sure Shasha has got all the msg all u ppl sending and understand what is expected of her.. let's leave her alone about the matter which will not make you any less muslim...Islam is simple..the only thing that complicates it, are the people...Think! Wassalam.

Posted by: maple at septembre 15, 2003 09:16 PM

woi leezalorena!!
ko ni muslim ko apo.. kalu bukan aku maafkan,
ini pasal islam, tak tahu hukum kalu ,,jangan masuk campur.
kalau kita jahil, jangan menjahilkan orang lain!!!

Posted by: kucing bijok at septembre 17, 2003 04:13 PM

Rizal,

Why do you have to open up comments again? You should know better than that. As it is, there is no way the idiots of the world will accept any form of statement, they will believe what they want. The flaming will continue, and there will always be those who don't understand that using CAPS TO TYPE IS BAD FORM.

Try to emphathise with what Sasha, her family, or even her friends and supporters may feel by reading this, and you'd understand that reopening the comments is unnecessary, and may seem to people like me, as an attempt for you to capitalise on this issue.

There are a lot more things to discuss, and it is obvious that those who feel that they have the time to flame Sasha or her family here, don't have the time to contribute to the other more interesting and intellectually stimulating posts on your blog.

Freedom of speech, yes, you've provided. Anything that could be construed as intellectual discourse? I think that stopped being so after the first 10 comments. There are times when the old saying is true: If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.

Posted by: b at septembre 19, 2003 12:40 AM

b

Thank you for reminding me. Comments are now closed for good.

This has been nothing but disappointing.

If there are times when I am embarassed to be a Malay/Muslim, this post is evidence to such a time.

Posted by: Sharizal Shaarani at septembre 19, 2003 03:46 AM

it's devastating reading most of the comments about sasha's wedding. i do not know sasha personally but i know she is happily married with the man she loves dearly and i wish her all the best.

whether or not she got married in the chapel or church or whatever u call it, she is not answerable to neither u nor me but Allah. she has brought a new 'brother' into our religion and she has a 'big' responsibility on her shoulders to 'mould' him to be a good muslim. whether or not she carries out that responsibility, again she's no answerable to us but Allah. so why can't we be a more 'civilised' loving muslims and pray for her happiness instead of trying to be 'self-appointed' judge(s) purportedly for Allah? why can't we, muslims, just be friends and all live in peace?

i'm not pious but i am trying my best to be a good muslim and i agree with maple above, Islam is simple, the only thing that complicates it are the people!

Posted by: suzie b at avril 14, 2004 02:33 PM

Sometimes, dalam dok menyibuk jaga tepi kain orang, kita lupa tepi kain kita kotor jugak, mungkin lagi teruk. Kenkonon bila kita dah suarakan istighfar, kita ni bersih lah, tak dak dosa. Tapi anda semua yang dah mengambil bahagian mengutuk tu, JANGAN LUP PE(ala2 Nana), menghiris perasan orang lain adalah juga satu dosa dan lambat laun terkena muka sendiri, tak caya tengoklah nanti, adalah sedara mara sendiri yang buat perangai lagi teruk dari apa yang anda kutukkan. Kita hidup ni senang aje ... ingat Allah, Dia Maha Mengetahui. Apa yang orang lain buat Allah tahu ... Dia tahu niat hambanya .... dia Maha Mendengar dan Dia Maha Mengasihani ..... jangan lah dok risaukan tang orang punya dosa pahala ..... most of korang pun tengok Sasha dalam magazine n electronic media. Tak kenal dia secara peribadi, tapi dok kutuk dia macam tinggal sebumbung dan tidur sebantal. Jangan sekali-kali mengutuk dan menghiris hati manusia lain, doa orang teraniaya cepat dimakbulkan Tuhan. Kalau korang rasa patut nak berkata2, keluarkanlah kata2 nasihat yang berguna sebagai panduan. Pendek kata cermin diri sendiri dulu sebelum nak suluh muka orang lain.

Posted by: Adli at avril 20, 2004 09:22 AM

Im also mixed like you.But im too scared to be like you. How you do that? if my father, he's going to kill me.Im not going to'kutuk' you.Just to remind you that only You and Allah SWT know the truth.'Berpijaklah dibumi yang nyata'

Posted by: Soraya Williamson at avril 20, 2004 11:07 PM

Ha..betul tak? Dari dulu lg masa u jadi artis lagi aku dah tak caye ngan ko ni..memang sume artis tu luar je nampak baik tapi dalamnya pehhh!!pas tu tau lak bagi sttment nak tunjuk dia ni tak salah. Konon nak sorok le yg dia ni kene fitnah. Cik Shasha.. dunia skrang ni dah moden gileeer..takleh nak sorok nyerrr..dalam kain pun org boleh nampak..taubatlah..tapi takper..dlm hal ni aku rasa mak bapak pun kene amik kira juga sbb dosa ko sebelum kawin mak bapak ko yg tanggung..takyah kira dah kawin sbb laki ko tu pun belum tentu betul lagi..

Posted by: Elynn KLIA at mai 30, 2004 10:53 PM

selamat sejahtera sdr,sdri
allah yang maha esa pernah berfirman "awalludin makrifatullah"(seawal-awal beragama mengenal allah")dia suruh kenal dia. Allah sambung lagi "jika hendak mengenal dia kenal dulu diri sendiri". Dah kenal kah? Apabila dah kenal hancur lebur lah diri(maksudnya tiada sesiapa lagilah yang bersifat baru)
Yang sdr,sdri bincangkan di atas puncanya diri kita tidak mahu langsung mengenal diri, lupa dan lalai yang meneroka setiap hari kehidupan,sedangkan amalan agama pun ramai yang tak mahu untuk memahami. Hanya belajar ilmu syariat semata-mata belum lagi dapat menyelesaikan kekalutan yang terjadi di dunia ini.
Wahai sdr,sdri ilmu agama itu terdiri daripada ilmu syariat, tambahkan lagi ilmu tariqat tambahkan lagi ilmu hakiqat dan tambahkan lagi ilmu makrifat setelah diamalkan tambahkan lagi pegetahuan itu dengan rangkuman keempat-empat ilmu itu menjadi ilmu tasauf. Duduklah dalam rangkuman ilmu itu dan sdr,sdri semua akan berbahagia. Semua pemasalahan dunia akhirat semua akan terhurai dengan mudah dengan izin yang maha esa. Tak mahukah?

Posted by: ATOK at juin 21, 2004 01:06 PM

Assalamualaikum atok.tabur permata dan jagung kpd ayam..ayam akan tetap patuk jagung.mendedahkan rahsia kpd yg bukan ahlinya adalah suatu kebodohan menurut abu musa asy`ari didalam kasyfhul mahjubnya.Alangkah peliknya orang yg sedang lemas cuba menyelamatkan manusia yang sudah mati.wallahu`alam

Posted by: Sukatikaulah at juillet 9, 2004 08:18 AM

biarkan dia.suka ati dia la.u all ader tulung bayarkan majlisnya?u all jealous sebenarnya...ke ke ke...rata rata u all kat sini semua pernah buat maksiat

Posted by: mohd at juillet 11, 2004 06:39 PM

hidup ini umpama perjalanan seorang pelayar di lautan.kecekalan hiduplah yang membantu kita untuk terus sampai kedestinasi yang ingin ditujui.kita akan terkandas di tengah-tengah jalan sekiranya dalam pelayaran kita itu tidak dipenuhi oleh bekalan, iaitu ilmu dan keimanan.hidup di dunia ini adalah sementara dan segala pemberian Tuhan adalah sebagai bukti bahawa Allah masih menyayangi kita sebagai makhluknya walau pun kita sebenarnya banyak melakukan kesalahan kepada-Nya.oleh itu di bulan Rejab yang penuh keberkatan dan kemuliaan ini kita perbanyakkanlah mohon ampun dan maaf kepada-Nya agar hidup kita terjamin diakhirta kelak.

Posted by: indok faridah binti bachok at août 29, 2004 12:58 PM

Kids, everything is done and nothing can be undone. I'm pretty sure, the wedding is already sah, since it was also done in our Muslim way. Your purpose here is to give your point of views about what YOU think right or wrong. No need to insult anyone - why wud you, supposedly as a good Muslim do that? I'm sure Shasha has gotten the messages. Her taubat wud be between her and Allah. As for you who are still not satisfied, buzz off. She doesn't ask for a single cent from you. Shasha, in Islam, there's only the Islam way of running your life. Learn more if you can.

Posted by: RiNN at septembre 16, 2004 07:37 PM

Mungkin ada betul apa yg. sasha terangkan kpd peminat2nya...saya pun kahwin mat salleh jugak.. but alhamdullillah saya dan suami saya islam. Sebenarnya memang ada benarnya apa yg. sasha terangkan dulu..saya kahwin dulu di England sebelum kahwin di Malaysia. Kahwin di England atau di negara barat tidak semestinya berkahwin di church atau mengikut adat tradisi agama Christian.. kita cuma pergi ke registra office dan diaorang provide dewan dan kita boleh menjemput keluarga dan kekawan...kalau kita tak nak kahwin dekat dewan yg. diaorang provide kan tu.. kita pegi la pilih dewan mana2 pun dan registra officer akan dtg utk saksi kan kita punya marriage.. itu namanya CIVIL MARRIAGE.. paderi tak diperlukan.. pas tu kita cuma melafazkan yg. kita akan sehidup semati samada susah dan senang dan kaya dan miskin.. itu aje... pas tu sign surat kahwin.. kahwin la..pas tu terletak atas kita la sama ada kita nak buat majlis kahwin kat mana.. tak semestinya kita kawin di negara barat.. kita berkahwin secara org. Christian

Posted by: Minah melayu at novembre 2, 2004 06:12 PM

Hello Mrs Saidin ( sasha's mum ).

Was a student of hers when she taught Art at Garden School...( back in the late 80's). Great Lady... amazing teacher. Inspired me to decide on committing my life into making things beautiful for a career choice.

Anyway, here's a short message for your mum, Sasha:

"Mrs. Saidin, you were tons better than the Mrs. Lian that came after you. She was absolute rubbish.May Allah bless you with Happiness and good health"

best regards,
Alan

Posted by: Alan at novembre 5, 2004 07:01 PM

errrkkkk, apahal gaduh2x ni...tak paham betul ler....

btw...sasha and husband, eventhough im not ur fan or watever ... all the BEST. cos its ur life, and u know what to do in the future..think abt ur next future,not past or present future..hehe..
Tata!

Posted by: Lyn at novembre 16, 2004 06:30 PM